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OpenStudy (anonymous):

help me pwease =( On August 16, 2005, one share of Telephone & Data Systems Inc. stock cost $42.90. On September 2, 2005, the stock closed 5% lower than the price on August 16th. What was the cost of one share of Telephone & Data Systems Inc. stock on September 2nd?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is 5% of 42.90 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can multiply to get it.... that's how much the stock dropped. So you would need to subtract that drop amount from $42.90 to get the new cost

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 16.19 according to my calculations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't think that's it...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did u calculate the 19 days?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no... I don't think the 19 days matters

OpenStudy (anonymous):

r u sure =( my teacher said otherwise during class =((((

OpenStudy (anonymous):

42.90 - (42.90 x 0.05)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

42.9(1-.05)^19

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what did your teacher say to do with the 19 days?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

raise it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yikes... that would be a 5% drop every day for 19 days!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's not what the problem states, although there are plenty of problems exactly like that... that's compounding interest

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think it just drops once, sort of like saying a shirt costs $42.90 but it's on sale for 5% off... what is the new price?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

something similar moser so im assuming it would be in the same equation but if its not then iono

OpenStudy (anonymous):

40.76

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't have this as a class, but I think this problem is quite the same as as the one she showed you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 40.76?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks right to me :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, that's right...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

orig price minus (orig price x 5%)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

42.90 - (42.90 x 5%)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

42.90 x .05 then subract from 42.90

OpenStudy (anonymous):

16.19

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what? why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

26.41...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

26.41 seems a little more than just 5% though...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Um... the way the problem is written above, that is not the correct approach. It says the stock closed 5% lower than the price on the first day. It doesn't say the stock closed 5% lower each day for 19 days. It dropped in price over a period of time, but the amount of the whole drop is 5%, not the daily drop. It is just like having a sale on something... the new price is the original price minus (the percentage times the original price)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, right! it is way more than 5%

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5 percent is like a nickel out of a dollar... not much!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So for each of the first 40 dollars, the price dropped a nickel... 40 nickels is 2 dollars.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think it's the answer to a different type of problem, or she wrote the problem incorrectly.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no thats the exact problem and i dont know how you would have a book for it =/ this was made specifically for my universiy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean u can google the problem and my school pops up well the name of my school is included in the url

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it possible u can show me what exactly the book says?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I believe you if you say it's written correctly... it's your hw, so you have no reason to lie about it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because he does have a point when he says we have to use exponents... thats wut kind of scares me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, as written, the price drops 5 cents for each of the 42 dollars (that's 2.10 so far)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and 5% of the last 90 cents, which is 4.5 cents. Overall, it drops 2.10 + 0.045 = 2.145. Subtract that from 42.90 to get the answer. You had it right earlier, but this is just another way to think of it to see that it really is a small drop in this case

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just beware... that exponent method IS correct for some problems... when something drops or rises repeatedly by a percentage, and you want to know what you end up, that's where you use it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Compound interest on credit cars, car loans, etc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=( im feeling extremely ambivalent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Stock price rises year after year over a decade, etc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

those all need compounding interest. Your problem was a simple interest question with dates thrown in to confuse you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am liking "extremely ambivalent" ... nice oxymoron ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i guess ur right then but if i get it wrong im gonna hunt u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(sort of, not exactly I guess... still good tho)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then put a arrow thru u like katniss everdeen

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I will owe you TWO free and correct answers next time :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i imagine you're a good shot... hope i'm right!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hope it helped...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

glad to help (or at least try to help)... good luck!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i feel like ur trolling me moser...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Moser90 may be right, but I can see no reason given in the problem to treat this as a compounding problem. It is stated as a a single drop in price

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can u at least show the work and explain how u got that answer moser

OpenStudy (anonymous):

knowing when to use the techniques your teacher shows you is important too... just cuz they did some compound interest problems doesn't make all problems compound interest. The lesson (hopefully) wants students to be able to distinguish between the simple and the compound cases

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the answer to that is 113.69

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this assignment is entitled Exponential Modeling and Percentages by the way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if that helps any

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why didnt u include the 42.9

OpenStudy (anonymous):

moser if u have the answers to the book whats the next question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no whats that i go to DePaul University in Chicago

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ease up... you haven't explained why compounding (i.e. exponents) should be used here in a problem that appears to be a simple price drop. "Cuz it's in that chapter" isn't really a reason

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I stand totally willing to be corrected and educated, but I'm just not understanding why you are using that approach

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, I agree, it's a little weird... i have to think they're just testing students to see if they really know what they're doing or if they are just plugging into formulas and hoping for the best.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need to get going... good luck... happy studying :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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