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OpenStudy (anonymous):

derivative of this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\ln (x{+}\sqrt{x^2-1})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zepp

OpenStudy (zepp):

You'll need to apply the chain rule to this, can you identify the outter function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ln

OpenStudy (zepp):

Good, what is the derivative of ln(x)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 1 }{ x }\]

OpenStudy (zepp):

Excellent, now, let's identify this outter function ln(x) as f(x) and this inner function as g(x) Applying the chain rule, we get \[\frac{d}{dx}f(g(x))=f'(g(x))g'(x)\]

OpenStudy (zepp):

We got the first part: \(f'(g(x))\), which is the derivative of \(\ln(g(x))\), \(\large \frac{1}{g(x))}\)

OpenStudy (zepp):

Still following? :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am following. but, couldnt I just use the chain rule variant of \[\frac{ d }{ dx }(\ln[f(x)])=\frac{ f'(x) }{ f(x) }\]?

OpenStudy (zepp):

Absolutely! And that'll be our second step, since there's another function inside the natural logarithm function.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. so then here is where i am, \[-f'(x) = \frac{1 + \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(x-2)^-(\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } }{x+\sqrt(x^2-1) }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*** ignore that - in front of f(x)

OpenStudy (zepp):

Yes, looks like, but the problem is that there's another function inside the square root function, so you'll need to differentiate it as well :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the one in the denominator?

OpenStudy (zepp):

\[\large \frac{d}{dx}\ln (x{+}\sqrt{x^2-1})=\frac{\frac{d}{dx}(x+\sqrt{(x^2-1)})}{x+\sqrt{x^2-1}}\]

OpenStudy (zepp):

Uhh, the x^2-1, you'll need to differentiate this. What you did was great, but there was only this one that was missing :D

OpenStudy (zepp):

\[\large f'(x) = \frac{(1 + \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(x^2-2)^{-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }} )(\frac{d}{dx}(x^2-2))}{x+\sqrt(x^2-1) }\]

OpenStudy (zepp):

According to the chain rule, leave the inner function intact and perform the derivative operation on the outter function, then multiply what you got by the derivative of the function that you left intact.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so this would be it \[\large f'(x) = \frac{(1 + \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(x^2-2)^{-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }} )(2x)}{x+\sqrt(x^2-1) }\]

OpenStudy (zepp):

Yup! :D

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