See attachment, please help
The Reimann sum on the interval [a,b] is given by\[\sum_{i=0}^nf(a+i\Delta x)\Delta x\]where \(\Delta x=\frac{b-a}n\)
what is \(\Delta x\) in your case?
...n is the number of rectangles btw
I just don't know how to use that f(x)=x^2/10 and the interval...[2,6], i mean i don't understand what's f(x) for
f(x) is the curve you are estimating the area under answer my questions an I will walk you though the process
6-2/8 which is -1/2 for ∆x right?
why - ? \(\Delta x=1/2\)
oh yes gotcha
so now after subbing in for a, b, n, and \(\Delta x\) we got\[\sum_{i=0}^8f(2+\frac i2)\frac12\]so far so good?
yes, ok so i see where the 8 and the 2 came from and also the 1/2
we are doing the Ln right because we're using 2...?
we are doing the left because we are starting at i=0, which is like starting at x=2 if we wanted the right endpoints we would use i=1, and we would start at x=2.5 make sense?
O.K, yes :)
ok, so now we are going to sub in for f(x)
since our \(x^*=2+\frac i2\) we now have\[\sum_{i=0}^8\frac{(2+\frac i2)^2}{10}\cdot\frac12\]still with me?
yes, i see how you have these substitutions
by using f(x)=X^2/10 :)
you got it :) now did you know we can pull out the constants in front of the summation?
Yup
\[\frac1{20}\sum_{i=0}^8(2+\frac i2)^2\]now we just expand and sum it up
it is helpful to know that\[\sum_{i=1}^ni=\frac{n(n+1)}2\]and\[\sum_{i=1}^ni^2=\frac{n(n+1)(2n+1)}6\]have you seen these formulas before?
Yeah, just learned about both 2 days ago
great, then this should be a breeze :)
\[\frac1{20}\sum_{i=0}^8(2+\frac i2)^2\]\[\frac1{20}\sum_{i=0}^84+2i+\frac{i^2}4\]can you sum it from here?
hmm so we left with 1/5 that Reimann sign 4 +2i + i^2 ?
why 1/5 ?
trying to pull a 4 out? can't do that I'm afraid
oh ok is it just 2i + i^2?
and 1/20 infront
where did the 4 go? what is\[\sum_{i=0}^84\]?
do we cancelled it with the other 4?
no, we so far have\[\frac1{20}\left(\sum_{i=0}^84+\sum_{i=0}^82i+\sum_{i=0}^8\frac{i^2}4\right)\]\[=\frac1{20}\left(4\sum_{i=0}^81+2\sum_{i=0}^8i+\frac14\sum_{i=0}^8i^2\right)\]now you need to do each sum
so what is\[\sum_{i=0}^81\]?
i completely lost you there, sorry :)
you are summing 1 from index 0 to index 8 0th term:1 1st term:1 2nd term:1 etc.
so that's 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=9 get it?
oh ok, yes!
cool, onward ho...
\[\frac1{20}\left(4\sum_{i=0}^81+2\sum_{i=0}^8i+\frac14\sum_{i=0}^8i^2\right)\]\[=\frac1{20}\left(4(9)+2\sum_{i=0}^8i+\frac14\sum_{i=0}^8i^2\right)\]now what about\[\sum_{i=0}^8i\]what is that equal to?
hmm in this case i=2 right?
oh crap I screwed up a little... the sum should go to 7 because the last left endpoint is 5.5 not 6
so\[\sum_{i=1}^71=8\]and all the sums should be from 0 to 7 if it were the right endpoints it would be from 1 to 8
oh ok, no worries hehe
2+(0.5)7=5.5 which is the last endpoint I hope I didn't confuse you, a minor adjustment...
\[\frac1{20}\left(4\sum_{i=0}^71+2\sum_{i=0}^7i+\frac14\sum_{i=0}^7i^2\right)\]\[=\frac1{20}\left(4(8)+2\sum_{i=0}^7i+\frac14\sum_{i=0}^7i^2\right)\]and i does not equal anything, it is an index that changes with the terms of the summation
\[\sum_{i=0}^7i=0+1+2+3+4+5+6+7\]see, i ticks off the natural numvers
numbers*
also note that\[\sum_{i=0}^7i=0+1+2+3+4+5+6+7=28=\frac{7(7+1)}2\]so this is where our formula you learned 2 days ago comes in
yeah from the formular n(n+1)/2
right, so I hope you understand how \[\sum_ni\]works now
so to continue, we now have...
\[\frac1{20}\left(4\sum_{i=0}^71+2\sum_{i=0}^7i+\frac14\sum_{i=0}^7i^2\right)\]\[=\frac1{20}\left(4(8)+2\frac{7\cdot8}2+\frac14\sum_{i=0}^7i^2\right)\]and the last piece of the puzzle is to find\[\sum_{i=0}^8i^2\]which is what?
sorry that should be sum up to 7, not 8
oh ok..
\[\sum_{i=0}^7i^2=?\]
we use 0^2+1^2+2^2+3^2+4^2+5^2+6^2+7^2 ?
yes, or you could use the formula you learned 2 days ago ;) (note that starting at zero does not matter because the first term is zero here)\[\sum_{i=0}^ni=\sum_{i=1}^ni\]sam goes for the sum over i^2 or any time the first term is zero
same*
what was your formula for\[\sum_{i=1}^ni^2\]?
n(n+1)(2n+1)6
/6
divide by 6 *
hehe yes
and what is n in your case?
140?
/6
yes that is the sum I was asking about what n is, which is 7, but you got the right sum anyway ...why did you write /6 again?
oh ok nevermind i was using the second formular which is wrong
so now we're adding the sum together ?
\[\sum_{i=0}^7i^2=\frac{7(8)(15)}6=140\]
so yeah, now we just add it all up
140+28+8?
opps nope
careful\[\frac1{20}\left(4\sum_{i=0}^71+2\sum_{i=0}^7i+\frac14\sum_{i=0}^7i^2\right)\]\[=\frac1{20}\left(4(8)+2(28)+\frac14(140)\right)\]
ok ok i see and then we plug them all back into our break up stuff after we did the sums
yeah, always gotta remember where we are in the formula and what it's supposed to look like
so therefore the answer is 463/5 right ?
? 1/20(32+56+35)=123/20 don't fail on the arithmetic at the end and get the wrong answer, that's just plain frustrating :P
AH!! 6.15 haha
yeah, that's what I get :)
Manh that was one long working out for a single question!!
I really appreciate your time and patient
yeah these things can be a pain, but it will go a lot faster with a little practice and knowing what forms to expect
Any suggestions to better my understanding of how become better like you?
or at least like you, i know you're way way beyond
thanks thanks much! I just violate the open study rule by becoming your fun! :)
I am mostly self-taught, but here is a really good set of notes http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/ and also MIT OCW has great, but quite difficult classes
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-01sc-single-variable-calculus-fall-2010/index.htm
and you're very welcome :) good luck, I have to go hunt down some people causing trouble on this site later!
thanks much!
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