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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Anyone good with pre calc?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can find restrictions on domain by setting denominator = 0. and solving for x. Those will be the values that would cause division by zero. Any other x in the domain would be allowed.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

X- and Y-intercepts are standard procedure. Let y=f(x)=0 and solve for x to find x-intercepts, then let x=0 to solve for y-intercepts.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

huh? @CliffSedge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You're asking about this, right? \(\large y=\frac{2}{x^2-2x-3}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The best first step is to factor the bottom to find where x causes division by zero, that will inform your domain and tell you where the vertical asymptotes are.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so ( x + 1) ( x - 3) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, when you set that =0. you'll see what x is not allowed to be (would cause division by zero, so is restricted from the domain).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Also, since there aren't like factors on top to cancel either one of those, the discontinuities will show up as vertical asymptotes and not just holes in the graph.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I forget how to work that out would it be x= -1 and x=3 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right, those are the equations of the vertical asymptote lines. They are also what must be excluded from the domain.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so domain would be all real numbers except -1 and 3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@CliffSedge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Exactly.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright. so to find the range?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I recommend finding the intercepts and horizontal asymptote first, then sketching the graph to get a better idea of what the range is.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, how do i do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll repeat my second post, so you don't have to scroll up. "X- and Y-intercepts are standard procedure. Let y=f(x)=0 and solve for x to find x-intercepts, then let x=0 to solve for y-intercepts."

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i do 0 = 2 / x^2 -2x - 3 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@CliffSedge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For x-intercepts, yes, but notice how it only matters if the numerator is equal to zero (which never happens...)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dont understand how to do it though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To find the intercepts? The X-intercept would happen when f(x)=0, but since all you have is a 2 in the numerator, it doesn't matter what x is, y will never equal 0. There are no X-intercepts.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For the Y-intercept, do the reverse: plug in 0 for x and solve for y.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh! thats what you were saying!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, sorry if the vocab is a little confusing. :">

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no no its not your fault. okay, so -2/3 is y? @CliffSedge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't know, I haven't worked it out yet . . . just a sec...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, y=-2/3 is the y-intercept.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, you have a Y-intercept but no X-intercept; that should give you a clue about the horizontal asymptote.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(You should already be sketching the graph by now)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, well ya see. I have no idea. How so i find that? if theres no x int that means there are no horizontal asymt. either? @CliffSedge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, the horizontal asymptote is the long-term behavior, i.e. what happens as x approaches -∞ and ∞.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You should at least have an x-y table going by now, e.g. |dw:1353346491145:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

still have no idea. @CliffSedge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hmm, ok, well think about what would happen if x were some really really REALLY ridiculously large number, what would happen to y?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y would be stretched?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Im sooooo lost.. @CliffSedge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all i need is the range ans the horizontal asy.!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The numerator is just a number, the denominator contains an expression with x^2 in it. If x gets ridiculously large (in either the positive or negative direction), you'll eventually reach 2/∞ which goes to zero. It never actually touches zero or there would be an X-intercept there, instead, y=0 is a horizontal asymptote.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so then the range?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So we know that the curve never touches the x axis, but it does approach it asymptotically. You need to find out whether all the y-values are negative, positive, or both, if both, then there is no restriction on the range.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so all real numbers?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It looks like it, yes (almost). There is an interval where y is negative, but most of the time it is positive. Since there is no X-intercept, however, y cannot equal 0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uhhh okay. so y doesnt = 0..?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

????????? @CliffSedge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right, when looking for the Y-intercept, you already found that y cannot equal zero because there is no value of x that will do that for you. The curve approaches y=0 asymptotically (the horizontal asymptote), but never actually touches it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The graph looks kinda like this: |dw:1353350399289:dw|

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