how do i find the center of a circle on the coordinate plane?
Do you have an equation for the circle?
no
so you have the graph then?
yes
can you post it
yes it will take me a moment tho
alright
do you know how to find the equation of perpendicular bisectors?
we have to write that using the midpoint and slope which we already found we just don't know how to write the equation
To find the equation, you use the general form y = mx+b Example: Say you know that the slope is 2 and it goes through the point (5,7) y = mx+b y = 2x + b ... plug in the slope m = 2 7 = 2*5 + b ... plug in x = 5 and y = 7, this is from the point (5,7) 7 = 10 + b 7 - 10 = b -3 = b b = -3 Therefore, the equation that goes through (5,7) and it has a slope of 2 is y = 2x - 3
So if you have the perpendicular slopes and the midpoints, then you can find the equations of the perpendicular bisectors You only need to do 2 equations for the 2 (out of 3) perpendicular bisectors because you only need 2 lines to have them intersect at the point...which is the center of the circle
we are working it out right now. thank you!
you're welcome
let me know what you get
for Line AB we got b = 2 so the equation would be y=1x-2
because the slop of AB = 1
it should be +2 y = mx + b y = 1x + b 3 = 1*1 + b 3 = 1 + b 3 - 1 = b 2 = b b = 2 Line through A and B: y = x + 2
yes
The midpoint of AB is (2,4) The perpendicular slope of line AB is -1 y = mx + b y = -1x + b 4 = -1*2 + b 4 = -2 + b 4 + 2 = b 6 = b b = 6 So the equation of the perpendicular bisector of AB is y = -x + 6
Do the same to find the equation of the perpendicular bisector of AC or BC (you only need more more equation)
okay we'll work on that and get back to you thank you
np
equation for the perpendicular bisector of BC is Y=-2x+11
that's the equation of the line that goes through points B and C
it is NOT the equation of the perpendicular bisector of BC
you would need a) the perpendicular slope and b) the midpoint of BC to find the equation of the perpendicular bisector of BC
perpendicular slop is 1/2 and the midpoint of BC (4,3)
now use those two facts to find the perpendicular bisector of BC
y=1/2x+1
good
so you have these two perpendicular bisector equations: y = -x + 6 y=1/2x+1
solve this system any way you can to find the point of intersection this point of intersection is the center of the circle
how do we find the point of intersection?
well y is both -x+6 and it is 1/2x+1 so because of that you can say -x + 6 = 1/2x + 1
solve for x
i don't think its right but i got x=3.3 repeating
that's correct, or 10/3
now that you know x, use it to find y
YES!!!!!!
how do we find Y?
I would stick with the fraction
y = -x + 6 y = -10/3 + 6 ... plug in x = 10/3 y = -10/3 + 6/1 y = -10/3 + (6/1)*(3/3) y = -10/3 + 18/3 y = (-10 + 18)/3 y = 8/3 So the point of intersection is (10/3, 8/3) This means that the center of the circle is the point (10/3, 8/3)
thank you so much that makes sense now
you're welcome
so each point is 1.4 away from the center which means the raduis is 1.4
no, the radius isn't 1.4
how? im confused!
find the distance from point A (1,3) to the center (10/3, 8/3) using the distance formula
i did and i got the sqaure root of 2 which is 1.4
d = sqrt( (x1-x2)^2 + (y1 - y2)^2 ) d = sqrt( (1-10/3)^2 + (3 - 8/3)^2 ) d = sqrt( (-7/3)^2 + (1/3)^2 ) d = sqrt( 49/9 + 1/9 ) d = sqrt( 50/9 ) d = 2.3570226
So the radius is roughly 2.3570226 units it is exactly sqrt( 50/9 ) units
oh i see
not sure how you got sqrt(2)
i don't what im doing. our teacher hasn't taught us this
you haven't learned the distance formula yet?
we've learned that but she gave us a this project and never showed us how to find the center of a circle using points located on the circle
thank you for all your help
oh that's strange, but I'm glad to be of help
okay. last question. give possible coordinates of another point on the circle
we know the center and the radius so we can use this general equation (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2 to find the equation of the circle
(h,k) is the center r is the radius
so what is the equation of the circle?
what numbers do i put in for the x and y
pick any number for x that's in between x = 1 and x = 5 so you can pick x = 4 for instance. plug whatever x value you pick in for x, then solve for y
(4-10/3)^2 + (y-8/3)^2 = 50/9^2 2/3^2 + (y-8/3)^2 = 50/9^2
im stuck
(x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2 (x-10/3)^2 + (y-8/3)^2 = (sqrt(50/9))^2 ... plug in the values of h, k and r (4 - 10/3)^2 + (y-8/3)^2 = (sqrt(50/9))^2 ... plug in x = 4 (4 - 10/3)^2 + (y-8/3)^2 = 50/9 (2/3)^2 + (y-8/3)^2 = 50/9 4/9 + (y-8/3)^2 = 50/9 (y-8/3)^2 = 50/9 - 4/9 (y-8/3)^2 = 46/9 I'll let you finish
i got y = 2.51
(y-8/3)^2 = 46/9 y-8/3 = sqrt(46/9) or y-8/3 = -sqrt(46/9) y = 8/3 + sqrt(46/9) or y = 8/3 - sqrt(46/9) y = 4.9274433277 or y = 0.4058900056
So we have two points where x = 4 (4, 4.9274433277) and (4, 0.4058900056)
ohhhhh okay thanks so much jim jim!!!:D
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