find y for y'=-2(x-2y+1)/(5x-y-4)
y is y(x)
this is a double integral problem
or do you want to integrate only with respect to x
y is a function of x
No, you can't just do the second integral with respect to x and treat the y as constants, precisely because y is also a function of x.
Yes. This looks like it wants to be a homogeneous equation in the sense that the variable we're interested in using is something like this v = (y+c)/x This is a nice substitution, because it implied xv = y + c and thus differentiating y' = xv' + v The trick is to rearrange -2(x-2y+1)/(5x-y-4) somehow to use that substitution
i am back
i apologize for the silly mistake i made
so it seems we are dealing with a differential equation here
i was thinking in terms of double integral
the answer for the differential equation would be
\[f(x) = 1-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\frac{ 2C(x-1)+1+\sqrt{12C(x-1)} }{ C }\]
where C is a constant
i will delete the mistakes i made so no one waste time reading them
no problem , everybody makes mistakes, but how do I get that result ? Also I can't find a way to rearange the -2(x-2y+1)/(5x-y-4) equation for the substitution to be useful
do you agree with the answer first so i show you the steps
I don't know the answer and I don't know how you got that answer :) the steps would be really useful thanks
sure will do
it will take a while to type the answer and wish me good luck i don't get phone call from my students
ok back sorry for the long delay due to phone calls
step 01: let y = xv
02: dy = xdv + vdx
03: (5x-y-4)dy =(-2x+4y-2)dx
04: (5x-y-4)(xdv+vdx)=(-2x+4xv-2)dx
let me know if you are following
now we have to simplify the equation in terms of v and x, dv, and dx
let me know when you are back
I'm back , I'm reading the steps you wrote right now
\[5x ^{2}dv-x^{2}vdv-4xdv-5xvdx-xv^{2}dx-4vdx=...\]
all of that equals to the other side which is:
\[-2xdx+4xvdx-2dx\]
i think you can do it from here put the dx on one side and the dv on the other side
now there are many ways to solve this problem using partial fraction, also the sinh and cosh functions but i am not sure if you have done such problems
there is another substitution that you could do which is u= ax + by +k
thank you very much for the help
you are more than welcome, thanks for your kindness
please tell ur teacher to kindly write the function f(x,y) so i don't make a mistake
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