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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@RadEn can u help? :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
differentiate the numerator and the denominator
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i expanded it wrong?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{ h^3+3x^2h+x^3 }{ h }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
can you confirm this is the equation you are asking for
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no its this one \[ \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} h^3 + 3h^2 x + 3h x^2 + x^3\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
over h
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{ h^3 + 3h^2 x + 3h x^2 + x^3 }{ h }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
because anything/0 is undefined in your case then i will apply the famous L'Hopital rule, which allows you to differentiate the numerator and the denominator.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so when you plug the zero, you are left with 3x^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
remember we differentiating with respect to h
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay
OpenStudy (anonymous):
x would be a constant in this case
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so only 2x^2 will remain
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
3x^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay thanks
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you are welcome! all the best
hartnn (hartnn):
L'Hopitals can be applied only if the form is 0/0 or infinity / infinity , here its not the case, so L'Hopital's can't be applied.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohh so how would i do it then?
hartnn (hartnn):
are you sure this: h^3 + 3h^2 x + 3h x^2 + x^3 is the numerator ?
or was it (x+h)^3 -x^3 ??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the original question was with Compute f’(a) using the limit definition f(x) = x^3 + 4, a = -1, so expanded (x + h)^3 and I got that one.
hartnn (hartnn):
aha!
do you know the limit definition of derivative ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no
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hartnn (hartnn):
let me tell you :)
\(\large f'(x)=\lim \limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \dfrac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}\)
you computed f(x+h) = (x+h)^3 +4
but missed the '-f(x)' part of numerator.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohhh you're right!
hartnn (hartnn):
so, now your numerator will become ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(x + h)^3 - 4?
hartnn (hartnn):
lets go term by term :
f(x) = x^3+4
so what will be f(x+h) =...?
do you know how to find it ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no
hartnn (hartnn):
to get f(x+h), just replace 'x' in f(x) by '(x+h)'
so what u get by replacing 'x' in x^3+4 by 'x+h' ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh so (x +h)^3 + 4?
hartnn (hartnn):
yes, thats f(x+h)
now your numerator,
f(x+h)-f(x)
= (x+h)^3 +4 - (x^3+4)
right ?
can you simplify the numerator ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok hold on
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hartnn (hartnn):
sure, take your time :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so i got h^3 + 3h^2 x + 3h x^2 ?
hartnn (hartnn):
That.is.absolutely.correct! Good :)
now comes the easy part,
so, your limit now is ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay hold on lol so i just cross the like terms right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so i got h^3 over h ?
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hartnn (hartnn):
cross ?
can you factor out h from numerator ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohh okay
hartnn (hartnn):
wait, your limit is :
\(\large f'(x)=\lim \limits_{h \rightarrow 0} \dfrac{h^3 + 3h^2 x + 3h x^2 }{h}\)
right ?
factor out 'h' from numerator.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so if i do that only h3 will remain right?
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hartnn (hartnn):
umm, no...
factor out one 'h' from each term of numerator, like this :
\(h^3+3h^2x+3hx^2= h (h^2+3hx+3x^2)\)
got this ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohh ok
hartnn (hartnn):
now you notice that this factored out 'h' from numerator, gets cancelled with 'h' in denominator ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
hartnn (hartnn):
so, your limit now is :
\(\large \lim \limits_{h \rightarrow 0}[h^2+3hx+3x^2]\)
right ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
hartnn (hartnn):
now you can just plug in h=0 in that to get the value of limit, what u get after plgging in h=0 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok hold on
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok so only h remains
hartnn (hartnn):
h ? you are putting h=0
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
you meant put zero in every h right?
hartnn (hartnn):
yes.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yea thats what i did
OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait never mind
OpenStudy (anonymous):
nothind remains
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