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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Two masses are connected by a string on a pulley as shown in the figure where m1 = 4.05kg and m2 = 2.82kg. The coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.254. Assuming that we take the direction to the right as positive, what is the largest numerical value of the vector F to keep the tension of the string at zero?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Figure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You have forces , sum them first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

m1g

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-m1g + .254m2g = -32.670456 N

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I would assume that Fx would be 32.67 N, but that's incorrect.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Adding the forces as if they had the same sign, 46.71 N to the left.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sum F_x=f_x-0=m_1a_x \] \[\sum F_y=ma_x=0-m_2g\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[m_2a_y=-m_2g\] \[a_y=-g\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since they're attached to each other they have the same acceleration

OpenStudy (anonymous):

soyou end up with \[m_1a_x=f_x\] \[m_1(-g)=f_x\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have tried that, but it is not the largest value for Fx.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so you just plug in m1, and g and thats the largest force... it's theo nly force that will allowthe tension to be zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

don't havea calculator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Kinetic friction and the m2 block were not taken into consideration, therefore this answer is incorrect. You would be right if Fx was pulling only on m1, but in the figure, this is not the case.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not sure what you're trying to say. m2 was taken into consideration . Fx is only pulling on the object m1 and not m2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's only pulling on m2, not m1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh lol switch the m1 wit m2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in my summation m1 is m2 in your diagram

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see. Thanks for your time!

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