y=2sinx, then what would be the derivative for this?
whats derivative of sin x ?
cosx
2 can be pulled out of differentiation, d/dx (2 sin x) = 2 d/dx (sin x) = 2 cos x thats it!
so we just leave the 2 alone...? so then what are you allowed to pull out of a differentiation? definitely not a variable
a constant 2 is a constant
\((d/dx) a f(x)= a (d/dx)f(x)=af'(x)\)
so technically you could factor a constant out of a function being differentiated then take the derivative of the factored function, then multiply the constant back in?
thats correct.
but if it was something like 2+sin x then derivative of constant = 0 so, that would be 0+cos x = cos x
oh I c ok because you have to take the derivatives seperately~ differentiation and derivative is the same thing?
yes, its same thing.
ok so what aboutfinding the derivative of sinx^2???
\(\sin (x^2)\) right ? chain rule...
OH ic~ ok thanx!
what u got for sin (x^2) just to verify
2xcosx^2?
correct :)
oh, and how to deal with secant?
d/dx (sec x) = sec x tan x
how...?
you want me to prove that ? write sec x = 1/cos x d/dx (1/cos x) =... ? use chain rule
chain??? you mean 1(-sinx)+cosx(0)... wait that doesn't work...? hmm how to use chain rule for this...? (cosx)^-1, -cosx?????
whats derivative of 1/x ?
1(1)+x(o) 1?
was that product rule you just applied ? :P
derivative of x^{-1} is .... ? use the formula for derivative of x^n
oops LOL uh, [x(0) + 1(1)]/x^2 1/x^2
oh, so you tried quotient rule now....there's - *minus* in middle
i would have used that d/dx (x^n) = n x^{n-1} d/dx (x^{-1}) = -1 x^{-1-1} = -1/x^2
omg I must be tired
oh, ok, Ic
so, d/dx (1/cos x) = -1/ (cos^2 x) * (d/dx (cos x)) [using chain rule] = -1/ (cos^2 x) * (-sin x) = sin x / cos^2 x = (sin x/ cos x) * (1/ cos x) = tan x * sec x ask if any doubts....
how did u get d/dx(cosx) in that first step? and the original question was like...d^2/d^2x just so u kno I dont understand what that notation means etiher...LOL
d/dx (cos x) means derivative of cos x which is sin x
d^2/d^2x = d/dx (d/dx ) means double derivative. taking derivative twice, one after another
like d^2/d^2x (x^3) = d/dx (d/dx x^3) = d/dx (3x^2 ) = 6x
oh ok so then I understand how you got the first derivative now. You saw it as (cos)^-1, which allowed for the chain rule ic. so then after tanx times secx, now it is the problem of geeting the second derivative.
means you had to find d^2/d^2x (sec x) ??
si, that would be correct. So then I tried it, and I got -secx
so, now you need d/dx (sec x tan x) used product rule ? (how come the answer is so compact ? i don't think thats correct...)
my answer is probs wrong... is not one of the answer choices on here...
(sinx/cosx)(sinx/cosx times 1/cosx) + {1/cosx[(cosx times cosx)-(sinx times (-sinx))]}/cos^2x sin^2x/cos^3x+(cos^2x+sin^2x)/cos^3x) sin^2x+1/cos^3x -cos^2x/cos^3x -1/cosx -secx
upto here its correct sin^2x+1/cos^3x
how 1+sin^2 x = -cos^2 x ?
oh!!! I think I was thinking it was sin^2x -1 LOL so then where do I go from there?
you can leave it like this :(sin^2x+1)/cos^3x if there's such an option... or ((sin^2 x/ cos^2x) * (1/ cos x))+ 1/ cos^3 x = tan^2 x sec x + sec^3 x
if you still didn't get the required answer, list the choices.
got it~! oh, and I have another question, but I'm goihng to open up another question cya there?
sure :)
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