Consider the graph g', the derivative of a function g. http://i.imgur.com/uSYHrNQ.png (Note: Sorry if it looks slightly bad I had to draw it to the best of my ability.) edit: http://i.imgur.com/b7cTF1O.jpg (This version shows the curves better) Determine the following and justify briefly. a) The critical numbers of g. b) The interval(s) where g is increasing / decreasing. c) The interval(s) where g is concave up / down. d) The x co-ord of the points of inflection of g e) The x co-ord of the relative extrema of g. (State if it is a maximum or minimum) f) Roughly sketch g
it look like exactly same. you just make it bigger, right?
for a, b you can directly get the answer from the graph of g' for c, you have to graph the graph of g'' for d,e, you have to graph the original function g getting from g' it's quite hard to me. just give you idea/
The problem is i'm struggling with graphing g and g'' :\ so yeah. but i'm pretty sure: a) = (-2,0) and (1,0) b) (-inf,-2) decreasing (-2,1) increasing (1,inf) increasing is that correct?
Are you sure about that? Because I thought how it worked was to get g from g' you look at the graph g' find the points where y=0 (so -2 and 1) and look if the points before after and in between those numbers are above or below the y axis. if they are below the graph is decreasing if they are above the graph is increasing.
ok, my bad, I take back my answer, I have to confirm the knowledge before giving out the right answer.
I need time to read my note. I 'll be back right after I figure out the answer, but don't worry . You have Mertsji here, He 's good enough for this question;
If the first derivative is 0 or undefined, there is a critical number.
If the graph of the first derivative is above the x axis (positive), the function is increasing. If it is below the x axis, the function is decreasing
@Mertsj no need to look up the information from the note, my note here, you :)
@Mertsj alright does that mean that this is correct? a) = (-2,0) and (1,0) b) (-inf,-2) decreasing (-2,1) increasing (1,inf) increasing
yes
Function is concave up if the first derivative is increasing concave down, if it is decreasing.
@Mertsj so does that mean that (-inf,-1) concave up (-1,1) concave down (1,inf) concave up?
yes. Sorry for the delay...we're dealing with flooding here again today.
@Mertsj thats sad to hear. hopefully everything is alright wherever you are. What about d and e? What would I need to do there?
To find the inflection points, you should consider each critical point. Test a point on each side of the critical point. If the first derivative is changing from negative to positive at the critical point, that is a minimum. It is changes from positive to negative, it is a maximum. If neither, it is an inflection point.
How am I support to test the points if I do not have a function?
Look at the graph. This will be a visual test.
@Mertsj I'm not exactly sure but heres what I think: x | f(x) -3 | -inf -1 | 2 0 | 1 2 | 2 so: Negative - decreasing Positive - increasing Positive - increasing Positive - increasing Now I don't know what to do..
Are you talking about making the sketch of g now?
No i'm talking about: d) The x co-ord of the points of inflection of g e) The x co-ord of the relative extrema of g. (State if it is a maximum or minimum) I don't understand it because I need co-ords.
The first derivative changes from negative to positive at -2. Therefore -2 is the x coordinate of a minimum point. The first derivative is 0 at x = 1 but the first derivative is positive to the left of 1 and positive to the right of 1. Therefore 1 is not a maximum or a minimum. Therefore 1 is an inflection point. Therefore the x coordinate of the inflection point is 1
@Mertsj So wait does this mean that (-2,f(-2)) is my minimum, (1,f(1)) is my inflection point and there is no maximum?
Yes.
@Mertsj Alright I think I will be able to graph this on my own. Thank you so much for your help!
I hope so because I am terrible at sketching these things. And you are welcome.
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