Can a scalar be negative?
I don't think so, scalar has no direction
because it is a number, a scalar quantity so it can not be negative because it has no direction
thats what i was thinking,
Yeah that's true and everytime we wanna find the scalar we put absolute values to it, like what Lewin did
A Scaler can be negative
@bobbanana, go on ...
Real numbers are called scalers
When you multiply a vector by a scalar quantity, can't that quantity be a negative?
yes therefore a scaler can be negative
That is in lin algebra?
Yes
Real numbers are called scalers and they relate to vectors in a vector space through the operation of scalar multiplication. ( where a vector can be multiplied to get another vector)
@bobbanana how can you see a word spelled correctly over and over again, and yet still spell it incorrectly :P
@agent0smith it takes skills XP haha
Magnitudes are what strike me as values which may never be negative, however, scalars aren't as clear... certainly, in linear algebra, in the theory of vector spaces, when the field associated with a certain space is the field of real numbers, certainly a scalar may be negative?
@UnkleRhaukus or @terenzreignz if you're thinking in terms of speed and velocity, then a scalar quantity (speed) obv can't be negative.
so there are different definitions of scalar?
sca·lar /ˈskālər/ Adjective (of a quantity) Having only magnitude, not direction. Noun A scalar quantity. That is the definition of a scalar on google, you can argue with it if you want, not my problemo
I don't think there's different definitions, it just gets used in different ways. eg for speed, negative doesn't make sense. But for vector multiplication, it does.
As far as linear algebra is concerned, in terms of vector spaces, a scalar is simply an element of the field associated with said vector space, such a field may well have negative as well as positive elements...
I'll stick with positive scalars (Like a physics major)
I was a physics major too, but I still use negative scalars :P
@.Sam. i agree with u
I think scalars can be negative, and speed is the exception rather than the rule. but I haven't studied this extensively.
@.Sam. energy is a scalar and can be negative, eg potential energy.
Temperature (Kelvin) > No negative Length, Area, Volume Mass, Density
energy...
Then you will get negative mass...
@agent0smith isn't potential energy a vector?
are you saying PE can not be negative? it is scalar.
A scalar can be negative if it has defined meaning. negative time has no meaning, but negative energy has(it means energy is released or absorbed.)
guys, why are we arguing about this?
Because we can :P also @.Sam. charge?
Scalar relating to mathematics or physics ?
and how are you defining scalar? are you defining it as the magnitude of a vector? or as something else?
Math is different from physics because you can choose what kind of rules you want to use as long as your reasoning is logical
"Any 'number' can be a scalar -- it's all a matter of what structure you're working with. There is nothing deep to it; it's simply a matter of definitions. And in the settings you're studying, letting "scalar" refer to any real number is the most useful definition." The simplest way to look at it is to consider sets of real numbers. If there is only one number, it is a scalar (+ or -). If it is a pair of numbers it is a vector in the plane. If it is a triplet, it is a vector in three space.
I was about to post that @Peter14 :P
@Eyad scalars can be negative in physics - charge, gravitational PE
True
so it depends on the scalar?
It depends on the problem
For Solving this Question, I would like to ask you that, do you have the detailed conception of : Scalar
yep
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haha @goformit100 :D assuming that was actually a joke...
"speed" is a scalar, "magnitude" is a scalar, but not all scalars are speed and magnitude.
I really need to stop reading these longer threads
the schitzophrenia helps :)
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