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OpenStudy (anonymous):

8 people, 2 cars (5 places each), everyone can drive. How many possibilities?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this the full info given to u????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nd wht is your q'? be more pecific

OpenStudy (anonymous):

q' ? How many ways i have to sit those 8 people like this. What im thinking is 2!x [ 5! / (5-4)! ]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i know there is a problem because the driver must be in the driver seat. you cant have 3 or 4 people in a car and none in the driver seat

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think its 8C5 for each car and then you have two cars, so its 2*8C5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or simply 10C8 ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You cant use combinations because you don't have reposition. If you sit the first guy in the car you only have 7 left

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Fixing the drivers: 1x1 now for the others you can have 4 ou each car or you can have 5 in one and 3 on the other i think the final answer is 1x1( 6P3 x 3P3 + 2! x 6P4 x 2P2) Am i correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Mertsj ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

maybe for the drivers instead of 1x1 i should use 8P2...

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Not 100% sure this covers every possibility... First pick the two drivers, pick 2 from 8. Then from the 6 people who are left, pick 4 for one car (there's only four seats left), two for the the other car, and so on. \[\Large (8C2*6C4*2C2) + (8C2*6C3*3C3) + (8C2*6C2*4C4 )\]

OpenStudy (mertsj):

There might be an empty seat in each car. Does that matter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can have empty seats. Thats why im confused

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Does the actual position of the people in the car matter? ie other than the driver? It doesn't mention that it matters which seat they're in.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

8P2 x ( 6P3 x 3P3 + 2! x 6P4 x 2P2) = 120960 should be this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

403200

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

"You can have empty seats. Thats why im confused" It doesn't actually say it matters who sits in what seat... I think it only matters who is driving, and who is in the car. I've seen a similar problem recently, which was solved using combinations similar to how I solved it. imo the only thing the problem is concerned with is who is in each car, and who is driving - not where they sit, empty seats etc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

teacher just gave me the answer. It was 182.. After some time i ended up realizing it was combinations indeed... Here's what i have: 8C4 + 8C3 + 8C5 = 182 Simple as that... It doesnt even matter who were driving -.- But thanks for your answer @agent0smith

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Oh if it doesn't matter who's driving... From 8 people pick 5 for the first car, then from the remaining 3 pick 3. From 8 pick 4 for the first, 4 for the second. From 8 pick 3 for the first, 5 for the second. \[\Large (8C5*3C3) + (8C4*4C4) + (8C3*5C5 )\] and all the 3C3, 4C4, 5C5 are 1 anyway... but I like showing them that way in the context of the question.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I guess it doesn't matter who you pick to drive, cos once the people are in the car, one of them can decide to drive.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep.. Thats what i figured out. I think the main fault was from the problem itself. Wasn't clear enough

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yeah, i've seen almost an exact problem, but it didn't mention the driver.

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