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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is anybody good with Proofs!? Will give medal!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is the assumption needed to begin an indirect proof of the following statement? “Cows do not have horns.” Bulls do not have horns. Bulls have horns. Cows do not have horns. Cows have horns.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

in indirect proof, you always start by assuming the opposite of the thing u wanto prove

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would be D?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes thats correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you, can you help me with another?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

sure ask

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks @blossomemerald

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Heather is doing an indirect proof with five given statements and one conclusion. How many of these statements can be true based on her assumption to contradict the assumption and prove the original conclusion? At most four All five Exactly three At least one would it be A?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or is it D? I really don't understand what they are asking

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes ! you're awesome with proofs !! at least one contradiction is sufficient to conclude

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

oh you said u dont understand what they asking lol but you got the answer right. its D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

heres the thing :- in indirect proof, we start wid assuming the opposite of what we need to prove is true. and look for atleast one contradiction of given statements or premesis. if we get a contradiction, we're done wid proof.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay(:

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you got more qs

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Angie did the following proof in her logic class. Which step in the indirect proof did she do incorrectly? Prove: 8 is divisible by 4. Step 1: Assume that 8 is not divisible by four. Step 2: 8 is divisible by 4 Step 3: 8 is divisible by 4. Step 1 Steps 1 and 3 Step 3 Step 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so then that one would be C?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

why

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

she started right - by assuming the opposite is true. so step1 is right

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so it must be C or D gimme a sec to think

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i would tick D. cuz step 1 and step 3 are perfect !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well you said that we start by assuming the opposite of what we need to prove is true. and look for at least one contradiction of given statements..so saying that 8 is divisible by 4 would end the proof because that is correct, there is no need for a 3rd step..i think lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

also steps 2 & 3 say the same thing, you wouldn't need to list it twice. would you?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lol i see your point wait let me think again

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

step1 and step3 are a must in indirect proof

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

in step2 only we need to show something that contradicts. step2 has to be something like :- step2 : 8 = 4*2 or step2 : 4 is a factor of 8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

at step2, you cannot conclude.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

tick D, you will come to knw whe u submit anyways :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is so confusing but okay, if you say so lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ok. indirect proof template is like that, you must have 3 steps.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhhh nvm I get what you r saying now, there would have to be something else there for step 2 so that you can prove 8 is divisible by 4. I am no longer confused lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

1. assumption 2. contradiction 3. conclision

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yayyy! haha. okay but I have one more lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Shelly, Jess, and Andrea are all working at an amusement park for the summer. The manager finds out that one of them left the key in the door to the security office. When he asked them who did it, they replied: Shelly: Andrea did it. Jess: Shelly did not do it. Andrea: I didn’t do it. The manager believed Andrea. Use an indirect proof to show that Andrea did not leave the key in the security office door. Hint: Begin by assuming Andrea did leave the key in the door.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

openstudy is always losing connection -___________________-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know- Step 1: Assume Andrea did leave the key in the door. Step 2: ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Since we need to prove "Andrea did not leave the key in the security office door", we begin by assuming the opposite of it, that Andrea did leave the key in the door. Shelly says, Andrea did it. which is fine with our assumption that Andrea did it. Jess says, Shelly did not do it. which is fine with our assumption that Andrea did it. Andrea says, Andrea did not do it. which is a CONTRADICTION to our assumption that Andrea did it. since atleast one of the statements is contradicting with our assumption that Andrea did it, our assumption must be false. So Andrea did not do it.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you can put them in 3 steps

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh, how can it be that easy nd Andrea could be lying!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Step 1 : Since we need to prove "Andrea did not leave the key in the security office door", we begin by assuming the opposite of it, that Andrea did leave the key in the door. Step 2: Shelly says, Andrea did it. which is fine with our assumption that Andrea did it. Jess says, Shelly did not do it. which is fine with our assumption that Andrea did it. Andrea says, Andrea did not do it. which is a CONTRADICTION to our assumption that Andrea did it. Step 3: since atleast one of the statements is contradicting with our assumption that Andrea did it, our assumption must be false. So Andrea did not do it.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we dont care whether Andrea is lying or not. All we care is whether we got a contradiction or not.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol okay so it would be... Step 1: Assume Andrea did leave the key in the door. Step 2: Shelly says, Andrea did it Step 3: Jess says, Shelly did not do it Step 4: Andrea says, Andrea did not do it

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

not so many steps. compress it in only 3 steps

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Heather is doing an indirect proof with five given statements and one conclusion. How many of these statements can be true based on her assumption to contradict the assumption and prove the original conclusion? At most four All five Exactly three At least one ^^^ I got this question wrong^^^

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

hey this is the q for which i said answer is "atleast one"

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

huh.. i see its wrong.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

answer is All five

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:/ oh

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i misread the question as :- "How many of these statements can be\( \color{red}{\cancel{true} \ false}\ \)based on her assumption to contradict the assumption and prove the original conclusion? "

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

but my explanation for that q holds good :- heres the thing :- in indirect proof, we start wid assuming the opposite of what we need to prove is true. and look for atleast one contradiction of given statements or premesis. if we get a contradiction, we're done wid proof.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its okay...im not worried about it nd thank you so much for all your help...if I could give you 5 medals I would but I cant lol .-.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lol ty :) you have more qs

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes but for some reason my computer isn't letting me see the pictures of the angles

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats weird ! these are from connexus or flvs ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

flvs

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ohk, to my experience, flvs works well with internet explorer. it bugs sometimes in in chrome/firefox

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea I am on internet explorer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you have any other questions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is what I am seeing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes the one that I just posted n the attachment that isn't letting me see the images, I don't know if you can understand it

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

no pics - no sense :|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

fuh real lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you're in mid of assessment or you can close and reopen

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can close it and reopen

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

good :) it may work.. try it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nopee its still not showing it .-.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

uhh.. call the instructor

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got it!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ah finally some pics lol, whats the q btw

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Use a paragraph proof to prove the corresponding angles postulate: Given: segment AB ∥ segment CD Prove: Corresponding angles are congruent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

any ideas?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes we use alternate interior angles theorem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is the definition of that ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when two parallel lines are cut by a transversal, the resulting alternate interior angles are congruent. is that it?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Sine line segment AB is parallel to the line segment CD, \(\angle 4 \cong \angle 6\) by alternate interior angles theorem. And since \(\angle 4\) and \(\angle 2\) are vertical angles, they must be congruent by vertical angles theorem. So \(\angle 4 \cong \angle 2\). By substitiution, \(\angle 2 \cong \angle 6\). Hence the corresponding angles are congruent.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, go thru above paragraph proof and see if it makes some sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

doesn't the equal sign with a curvy line mean approximately equal too?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

NO

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

in geometry it means congruent.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

congruent means, exactly equal to

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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