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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Suppose that R(x) is a polynomial of degree 8 whose coefficients are real numbers.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

A polynomial can have a maximum no. of roots = its highest degree. in this case it can have a total of 8 roots. Roots can be real or imaginary. but all put together there will be only 8. If your polynomial has real coefficients then if it has an imaginary root then its conjugate will also be a root. Meaning if a+ib is a root then a-ib will also be a root and vice versa. Now your are given 4 roots, 3 are real and one imaginary. the imaginary is -2-2i. Its conjugate will also be root. so -2+2i is also a root (Your answer for part one). Now for real coefficients the imaginary roots will occur only in pairs. meaning a+ib and a-ib are roots. now you know 5 of them. the other 3 could be all real. But if some of them are imaginary only 2 more could be imaginary since they occur in pairs. So for you part 2 it can have a maximum of 6 real roots. For part 3 it can have a max of 4 imaginary roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait a sec im reading rajee

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh okay i get it! THANK YOU!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so A=-2+2i B=6 C=4

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Not only will it have a maximum number of roots equalling its highest degree, it will have a minimum number of roots equalling its highest degree. Some of the roots may have the same value.

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

yes to @Taisonmac 's Question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k thanks

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Yep, I agree those answers are correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks whpalmer for the double check!

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

yeah like @whpalmer4 some of the roots may be duplicated but it will have 8 roots

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

There are some interesting rules that you can apply when you know the coefficients to further determine how many roots of each type. See Descartes' Rule of Signs...

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Also, duplicate roots will influence the shape of the curve. A duplicate root with an even number of roots will cause the curve to dip down to (or bow up to) the x-axis and then retreat. An odd number causes a crossing with an inflection point.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you guys help me with this?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

They have given you the hint . you have to take log on both sides.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so like this x-6log6=-5xlog5?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then I take

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

(x-6) in parentheses

OpenStudy (anonymous):

xlog6-6log6?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

Distributing log6 to both x and -6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-5xlog5+xlog6=6log6

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

+5x

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

not -5x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 6log6/5log5+xlog6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sry not xlog6

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

x( 5log 5 + log 6) = 6log 6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im stuck here 5xlog5+xlog6=6log6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Factor out the x, then divide

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

x = 6log6 / (5log 5 + log6)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 6log6/5log5+log6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh there it is

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Pet peeve of mine — 6 log 6/5 log 5 + log 6 != 6 log 6/(5 log 5 + log 6)...

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

correct me if I'm wrong, but if you take \(\large log_6 \)on the left side, you have to take \(\large log_6\) on the right side as well, otherwise you'd lose the equality

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

no this is log 6 to the base 10

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

hmm

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

start from the beginning @jdoe0001

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

@jdoe0001 we aren't taking log base 6, we did log base 10 on both sides. the log 6 you are seeing is \(log_{10} 6\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

base of -10

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

value of x comes out to be about 1.09265296334604...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

approximately ;-)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so dividing 6log6/5log5+log6 equals 1.092?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

They want the answer in log form so no need for value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i was like oh my lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so what is it in log form?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

the one that we found 6log 6 / (5log 5 + log 6)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cause i got log(6^... is that right?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

log (6^5 / 5^5)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

depending on how you solve it, you might end up with a different expression. For example, WolframAlpha gives \[x = \frac{6 (\ln(2)+\ln(3))}{\ln(2)+\ln(3)+5\ln(5)}\] but remember that adding logs is the same as taking the log of the product, so there's your 6 log 6 on top, and log 6 on the bottom

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i got that answer whpalmer4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but im not sure which is the true right answer

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

What do you mean, the true right answer? What are the candidates?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well it cant be the one you just put up cause they want in log

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it doesnt even let me put ln so it cant be that :\

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Oh, I see what you're saying. I forgot that they were asking for it in a particular form, and not just the numeric value.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay rajee. so log10(6/5)^5

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

@rajee_sam that's not correct. loga/logb does not equal log(a/b)

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

my bad @agent0smith is correct.. brain drain

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah thats wrong because i cant even put the logwith the little 10 lol

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

so our earlier answer is the simplest one we can get

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

\[\Large \frac{ \log6^{6} }{ \log5^{5} +\log 6 } = \frac{ \log6^{6} }{ \log(5^{5} \times 6)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which was 6log6/5log5+log6

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes to who?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

yes to you and @agent0smith

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You can simplify to what I gave above, or \[\Large \frac{ \log6^{6} }{ \log(5^{5} \times 6)} = \frac{ 6\log6 }{ \log(18750)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so which one should i enter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

The most simplified is the very last one.

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

whichever one it will let you.. both are right answers @agent0smith 'sis more simplified version

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can put both so

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

put @agent0smith 's answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i cant put parenthesis though which i dont think it will make a dif

OpenStudy (anonymous):

should i enter it or wait for your reply?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You don't need parentheses. You can also bring the power of 6 back to the log \[\Large \frac{ \log6^{6} }{ \log(5^{5} \times 6)} = \frac{ \log 46656 }{ \log18750}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how you getting those numbers my calc isnt showing those numbers

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

6^6, and 5^5*6...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k thanks

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

How did you not get them correct on a calculator??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yet the q is not asking to reduce fully so i wonder if its necesarry to make them numbers or just leave it as 6log6/5log5+log6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and i re entered it and it worked

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well thanks anyways!

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Either should be acceptable. But if you can't use parentheses, it would not be wise to enter 6log6/5log5+log6... since that's not the same as 6log6/(5log5+log6)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k thanks

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