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OpenStudy (anonymous):
need help on lim -->1 of sin(pi*x)/(x-1)
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OpenStudy (experimentx):
use substitution x-1 = u, x= u+1
limit u -> 0
and see what happens
OpenStudy (anonymous):
hum.. let me see.
OpenStudy (jhannybean):
can't you use L'Hospital's rule,@experimentX since you have the indeterminant form 0/0?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
L'Hoptal's is not alowed.
OpenStudy (experimentx):
yes you can ... but not recommended if you can do algebraically.
best substitution is to use x-1 = u/pi
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OpenStudy (jhannybean):
:( ok.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I get stucked on lim u-->0 of sin(u+1)/u
OpenStudy (experimentx):
no that is not correct form
OpenStudy (anonymous):
sin x/ x = 1 how to apply this?
OpenStudy (jhannybean):
replace the x in sin ( pi*x) with x = u+1
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I got lim u-->0 -sin(u*pi)/u
OpenStudy (anonymous):
now what?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(-sin(u)/u)*sin(pi)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-1*sin(pi)?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
=0
OpenStudy (experimentx):
use another substitution \( \pi u = v \)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok, let me try...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lim v->0 - sin(v)/v making v=pi*u
= -1?
OpenStudy (experimentx):
change the lower u to v/pi
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OpenStudy (experimentx):
you forgot to add pi to the top
OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry, I'm lost, where i did the mistake?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I forgot to add pi? where?
OpenStudy (experimentx):
\[ \frac{-\sin (\pi u)}{u} = ?\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
.sin(pi*u+pi) = sin(pi*u)cos(pi) + sin(pi)cos(pi*u)
sin (pi) = 0
and cos(pi) = -1
then -sin(pi*u)... where is the missing pi?
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OpenStudy (experimentx):
put u = v/pi
you get
-sin(pi*v/pi)/(v/pi) = - pi sin(v)/v = -pi
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Nice. Thank you. But I need more exercicies like this. Can you indicate any link?
OpenStudy (experimentx):
don't know ... if you have used this x-1 = u/pi, you would have gotten easy answer.
don't know ... try constructing few stuff yourself.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok. Thank you again!
OpenStudy (experimentx):
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