Expand the following: (2x + y)4 A. 8x+y^4 B. 16x^4 + 24x^3 y + 12x^2 y^2 + y^4 C. 16x^4 + 32x^3 y + 24x^2 y^2 + 8xy^3 + y^4 D. 16x^4 + 8x^3 y + 4x^2 y^2 + 2xy^3 + y^4
Do you know the binomial theorem?
I do, just want to check my answer.
what answer did you get?
I did the problem a while back but I'm reviewing for a final and all it tells me is I got th answer correct. So I honestly don't know what my answer was.
well you can definitely rule out A because (2x)^4 = 16x^4
the second term is found by first finding the binomial coefficient n C r = 4 C 1 = 4 then multiplying this with (2x)^3*(y)^1 I'll let you evaluate. Tell me what you get
I don't know how this made sense to me before, but it's not making sense anymore...
ok we can use pascals triangle
are you familiar with that?
I don't think so...
so you've never seen anything like this http://ptri1.tripod.com/ptreal1r.gif
that's pascals triangle
Nope. Never seen anything like that.
hmm ok, just checking
well the numbers in each row are used to help expand binomials row 4 has the numbers 1, 4, 6, 4, 1 in it
those are used as coefficients for each term
(2x)^4 = 16x^4 you multiply it with 1 to get 1*16x^4 so the first term is 16x^4 -------------------- (2x)^3*(y)^1 = 8x^3y then you multiply it with 4 to get 4*8x^3y = 32x^3y so the second term in the expansion is 32x^3y
this is enough info to pick out the answer, but you would keep going until you found the full expansion
Where's that ^3 coming from? That parts confusing me.
sorry
ok we have (2x+y)^4 the two terms of the binomial are 2x and y
each term will be of this form C * (2x)^k * (y)^m where C = binomial coefficient (found in pascals triangle) k = starts at n and goes down until it hits 0 m = starts at 0 and counts up until it hits n
the first term is 1*(2x)^4*(y)^0 the second term is 4*(2x)^3*(y)^1 the third term is 6*(2x)^2*(y)^2 etc etc Notice how the exponent over 2x is going down (4, 3, 2, ..) and the exponent over the y is going up (0, 1, 2, ...). The two exponents must add to n = 4
Ohhhh.... Well, don't I feel stupid... I'm looking at the lesson reading and getting your help, and I saw that in the reading, but it didn't make sense to me until you explained it like that...
you're fine and not stupid, so no worries
glad it's making sense now
It makes a little more sense, but not completely still. It might have something to do with the fact that I've been working on math since 8:30 am though...
probably
try taking a break and that might help
Ha, if I take a break, I won't want to come back to continue working on it. So basically, I'm kinda SOL in the taking a break department...lol
ah that sucks
but I guess once it's done, it will be done
Yes, it will be. I'll survive. Might suffer from a migraine though.
yeah it's only temporary I guess
Yeah. Anyway, I've settled on an answer. The way you explained it, I'm thinking it'll be D.
it's not D
remember you're multiplying by 4 (this is found in pascals triangle)
the second term is 4*(2x)^3*(y)^1 4*(8x^3y) 32x^3y
Haha, yeah I started thinking about it after I typed that. My logical brain wasn't keeping up with me.
i see lol
So, how'd you get 8x^3?
you cube 2x and you raise y to the first power then multiply that out (2x)^3*(y)^1 = 8x^3*y = 8x^3y
So I understand how you got there, now I'm confused as to what I'm supposed to do next.
well if you look at my posts above, you'll see that the first term is 16x^4, the second term is 32x^3y
that's enough info to find the answer
you can keep going if you want, but it's not necessary because we only have 4 choices
Haha, okay okay okay, I think I understand now. I swear my brain is running with it at one point and then crawling like a wounded animal with it. But I looked up at your earlier posts, and I have to say I'm thoroughly embarrassed by how long my blonde moment lasted.
lol it's fine, no worries
Mind if I ask you a slightly less complicated math question? Lol
sure go for it
How old are you? Lol
25 lol most complicated math question ever...took me that long to compute it
Hahaha :P
lol thx for the mental workout
No problem lol, everyday math is a challenge for me. I don't your kind of mind lol but give me a pen, a piece of paper and tell me to write...now that, that I could do with no problem.
well just keep at it, and you'll get better it's all about practice practice practice
If only I had a quarter for every time someone told me that. Not saying I'd be rich but I'd at least have a job lol I really like math, I just don't have the brain for it sometimes. Like today, as you so noticed by my prolonged blonde moment.
well you're tired (both of just working and dealing with math all day), so that's understandable
but I used to be quite bad with math myself when I was much younger, but kept practicing until I got better that's all it takes really
Seems that way. Bad part, I really only like practicing writing, and singing lol
that makes sense: you only want to practice the things you love
but practicing math will help you in other areas in school and will help you be a better problem solver and such
I love math, always have. It just takes a lot of time that I never really have to practice to the extent that I want. that's why I generally just stick to writing and singing, I can do both together for the same amount of time, but I can't focus on math while singing. So I then I don't practice and get rusty and then I have to ask people like you to help me, which unfortunately makes me feel inferior every time I ask.
don't be, you're not inferior at all in any way
and it's good to ask questions...the more you ask, the better because it means you're curious and learning
I don't like depending on someone to help me figure things out. I was raised to figure things out on my own lol which is a serious downfall sometimes.
true, but being independent is better than relying on someone 24/7
just gotta find a way to strike a balance
That's a math problem I've been struggling to figure out for almost 18 years now lol
well I'm sure you'll find that perfect balance someday for sure
Hope so lol if I don't I'm gonna have one hell of a time with adult life.
you'll be fine, just don't give up when things get tough and don't be afraid to work hard
I'm gonna be a professional baker one of these days, working hard isn't a fear of mine. Life in general is a fear of mine.
well I guess I meant "don't let laziness get in the way of hard work"...lol I guess it doesn't make sense to be afraid of hard work
but I'm sure laziness isn't a problem of yours, so that's good
Why do you think laziness isn't a problem for me? Lol
lol idk you seem like a hard worker (esp since you've been doing math since 8:30)
but that's very cool you want to be a baker, a very very tasty job indeed lol idk if I could handle all the yummy smells and not eat all of my creations (before they were sent out)
Haha, well thankfully for me I don't eating sweets very much lol, but I've so far I've made a wedding cake, graduation cake, and graduation cupcakes lol
wedding cakes must be really tough, just given all the layers
55 hours, roughly worked from 8am-12am, finished wedding cake was 3 tiers, 11 layers and 23 lbs. fully assembled lol
yikes, hopefully that couple will stay together for a while lol
Haha it was for my senior project. Me and my family were the ones who actually ate the cake. Not all of it of course but atleast we made a small dent before we all agreed we couldn't eat anymore of it lol
i see, what a very tasty way to end the year
Yeah, too bad I won't be making my Aunt's wedding cake though lol glad I was able to make the graduation cake and cupcakes for my sister-in-law. And next month I'll be making my mom a birthday cake that isn't store bought lol
very "sweet"
homemade cake always wins over storebought (esp if you use a lot of butter lol)
That would require me to make buttercream icing lol which (thank god) I don't like eating lol
ah party pooper lol, but I guess that's a good thing since it's probably not the healthiest thing in the world to eat
None of the cakes I make are the healthiest things in the world to eat lol but oh well.
oh well, gotta enjoy yourself and not worry about carbs and stuff (and eating nasty foods)
This is the wedding cake and graduation cupcakes I made lol and very true, but I already don't like the way my body looks I don't want to have a reason to hate it further lol
looks very yummy and you shouldn't worry too much about that as long as you're healthy, that's what should matter most really
Eh, consequence of being a constant eater when I was growing up lol I still haven't lost enough weight to be happy with myself. Here's the graduation cake I made. Unfortunately I wasn't able to take the picture before it started being served.
it was that yummy, couldn't get a complete photo of it before people started diving into it lol
Haha that was my problem with the cupcakes. The cake was being served while I was napping. Working on that cake for 13 hours and not going to sleep until about 3 and then waking up at 7 didn't allow me to stay awake all day lol
hmm doesn't sound fair at all, they should have at least waited til you got up
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