"Consider w = z/(z^2+1), where z=x+iy, y \neq 0 and {z^2+1} \neq 0. Given that Im (w) = 0, show that | z | = 1." I would appreciate it if someone pointed me towards the right direction and showed one or two of the first steps, but preferably not the entire answer.
Written out again because it looks all messed up: \[\frac{ z }{ z^2+1 } , z=x+iy , y \neq 0 , z^2+1 \neq 0 \]
@terenzreignz
I usually decompose the entire thing... how about expressing w as \[\Large \frac{x+\color{blue}iy}{(x+\color{blue}iy)^2 + 1}\] and separate the real and imaginary parts?
so you mean expanding the brackets?
\[\frac{ x+iy }{ x^2+2xyi-y^2+1 }\]
Yeah, that's it, and then, well, the real part and the imaginary parts aren't quite separated yet... \[\large \frac{x+\color{blue}iy}{x^2 -y^2 +1 + 2xy\color{blue}i}\] Let's try multiplying the numerator and denominator by the conjugate of the denominator?
Mind you, I don't really know what I'm doing, I'm just hoping that something might come out :3
hahah alright then :D
so the conjugate would be \[x^2-y^2+1-2xyi\] ?
That's right...
So it gives: \[\frac{(x+iy)(x^2-y^2+1-2xyi) }{(x^2-y^2+1+2xyi) (x^2-y^2+1-2xyi) }\] I'm not sure how to proceed as the powers will get pretty big if we multiply it out
Don't mind the denominator, that's sure to be some real number anyway :) Focus on the numerator, multiply the polynomials, and separate the real and the imaginary part...
so:\[x^3-y^2x+x-x^2yi-y^3i+yi+2xy^2\]
But to know Im (w) don't we need the denominator also?
Ah, I see now... the magic...
Here, we have this... \[\Large \frac{x^3-y^2x+x+2xy^2-x^2yi-y^3i+yi }{(x^2-y^2+1+2xyi) (x^2-y^2+1-2xyi) }\]
I think the 2xy^2 should be 2xy^2i
No it shouldn't, because it was the result of you multiplying \(\large y\color{blue}i\) by \(\large -2xy\color{blue}i\)
So, ready to proceed? ^_^
Aaa I see
Shall we?
Yep :)
So, the denominator is simply \(z^2 + 1\) multiplied by its conjugate, yes? so, it becomes just \(\large |z^2 +1|^2\) a real number, which isn't zero since \(|z^2+1|\ne0\)
You following me so far?
yes that seems to be correct
you make it pretty clear so it's easy to follow :D
So, the entire thingy is just\[\Large \frac{x^3-y^2x+x+2xy^2-x^2yi-y^3i+yi }{|z^2+1|^2 }\] I actually just did that to lessen the scary-factor of the denominator :3
there is a much simpler way of solving this
I will defer :) Complex analysis is not my forte... but maybe you guys could just let me finish this? Pretty please? ^_^
I am taking account of the fact that:\[\log{w}=0\implies\log{\frac{z}{z^2+1}}=0\implies z=z^2+1\]
Could you explain that part?
log? How does log factor into all of this? D:
if \(\log(x)=0\implies x=e^0=1\)
aren't we given \(\log(w)=0\)
No... we're given Im(w) = 0 D:
I don't think we're given that, although I could be mistaken
I thought 'lm' was 'ln' mistyped :)
:D Would you happen to have other ideas or should terenzreignz continue from where we left off?
strangely enough if it was 'ln' then it leads to the same answer! :)
Yes it does, I just realized that :D Maybe there's something to it....
It's Terence (or TJ) @Teinis >.> Back to reality, I suppose :) We may now neatly separate the real part from the imaginary part, like this... \[\Large \frac{\color{red}{x^3-y^2x+x+2xy^2}+\color{blue}{(-x^2y-y^3+y)}\color{green}i }{|z^2+1|^2 }\]
So, in effect, \[\Large Im(w) = \frac{-x^2y-y^3+y}{|z^2+1|^2}=0\]
Catch me so far?
Yep sounds good
@terenzreignz has it spot on! sorry for my mis understanding of your question. :)
Well, we have established that \(\large |z^2 + 1|^2\) is a nonzero real number, so it may be multiplied to both sides of the equation to give... (and cancel out) \[\Large -x^2y-y^3+y = 0\] aye?
aaaa Im starting to see where you're going with this
Yep that seems good
You want to continue it?
I could give it a try :)
Hint: Factor ;)
We can factorize it as \[y(-x^2-y^2+1) = 0\]
mhmm <nods>
and since we know: \[y \neq 0, that means -x^2-y^2+1 = 0\]
yes...
Stuck?
Actually 'I got stuck again, not quite sure how to continue now...
NO WAIT!
waiting...
Omg I just had a light bulb moment
Do elaborate ;)
\[-x^2-y^2+1 = x^2+y^2-1\]
huh? That makes no sense...
I meant if you multiply both sides by -1 you can get it into that form
^THAT makes sense
\[x^2+y^2 = 1\]
<drum roll>
and since \[\left| z \right| = \sqrt{x^2+y^2}\]
<drum roll gets faster>
\[\sqrt{x^2+y^2} = 1\]
so \[\left| z \right| = 1\]
!!!
<applause>
Heh... not bad for a kid that didn't know what he was doing just about a half-hour ago, huh? ^_^
I would like to thank my mother and father.....
and tj ;)
hehe :D
yeah I guess, now that I think about it it doesn't seem that hard, you just need someone to walk you through some of the process
Thanks a lot for helping me with that :)
Yes... and I didn't really tell you the answer, now did I? ;)
hahah nope ;)
You actually did most of the dirty work yourself... I detest algebra XD
yeah those letters can be quite messy
Well, I guess it's time to wrap this question up, thanks again!
Signing off now. --------------------------- Terence out
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