Can someone help me with this L'Hopital problem: lim as x approaches 1 from the right or (lnx)^(x-1)
I was thinking you could do y=lim.... and then take ln of both sides. But that just makes it more difficult.
take the log first then do it
yes u have to remove the (x-1) from the exponent first
or else rewrite as \[\large \ln(x)^{x-1}=e^{(x-1)\ln(\ln(x))}\]
either way the work is identical, finding \[\lim_{x\to 1^+}(x-1)\ln(\ln(x))\]
\[[ln(x)]^{x-1}=ln^x(x)*ln(x)\]
divide, not multiply
\[[ln(x)]^{x-1}=ln^x(x)~/~ln(x)\]
right?
yeah, but my guess is that it is now going to be even more complicated although i could be way off
was this your suggestion? \[y=(lnx)^{(x-1)}\]\[e^y=e^{(x-1)~lnx}\]
maybe not though...
no it was just two rewrite \(b^x\) as \(e^{x\ln(b)}\)
usually math teacher says "take the log" and "simplify using properties of the log" then compute the limit and then since you take the log as a first step you "exponentiate" (if that is a word) at the end
so in this problem it would be \[y=\ln(x)^{x-1}\] \[\ln(y)=\ln(\ln(x)^{x-1})=(x-1)\ln(x)\]
oops i mean \[(x-1)\ln(\ln(x))\]
my precalc teacher told us that whenever you see a convoluted setup, the answer is either going to be 0 or 1 :)
lol what about \[\lim_{x\to \infty}(1+\frac{3}{x})^x\]?
but back to my screed, this is all math teacher nonsense
since by definition \[b^x:=e^{x\ln(b)}\]
and so by definition \[\large \ln(x)^{x-1}=e^{(x-1)\ln(\ln(x))}\]
all the work is still computing the limit in the sky however, so it really makes no difference
i wonder about a power series, but that thought really hasnt formed and im sure it would be a nightmare
eeeew
seems nightmareish
\[ln(x)=\sum_1\frac{-(1-x)^n}{n}\] \[[ln(x)]^{x-1}=\sum_1\left[\frac{-(1-x)^n}{n}\right]^{x-1}\]
yikes!!
oh it aint that bad :) at x=1 that zeros out to 1 i believe
My book kinda of gives me an answer, it say to do: Let y= lim ln(x)^(x-1), then somehow its goes to = lim (x-1)ln(x) =0 Hence the lim is equal to 1
ok lets go slow
it doesn't go to \((x-1)\ln(\ln(x))\) that is what you get when you take the log
no, its doesnt even say to take ln of both sides
which is unsusal, beacuse the soulutions to the other problems like this one actually say take ln of both sides
ok then maybe i misread the problem could it be \[\large \ln(x^{x-1})\]
which is not the same as \[\large (\ln(x))^{x-1}\] at all
nope, it's |dw:1374844326447:dw|
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