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OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this asking what the variance is????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not without the square if i am not mistaken it must add up to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. that's correct.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

:) THIS is variance: \[\Large \sum_{i=1}^6(X_i-\bar X)^2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are subtracting off the mean from each entry, and adding them up got to get zero when you do that of course you can always check it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

By definition, it is always 0 isnt it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im soo confused.. can someone work me through it please?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Definition, maybe :) LOL If you have 6 elements (this can always be generalised to n elements) and their mean is \(\large \bar X\) Then \[\Large {\sum_{i=1}^6X_i }=6\bar X\] right? :D

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Right? So that if we divide both sides by 6, on the left side, you get the mean (the average of the 6 elements)

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

This is not variance. Variance is similar to this; however, to be a variance, you need to divide by the number of terms, 6.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is possible that there is a typo in the question and maybe there was supposed to be a square outside the parentheses but if there is no typo then the answer has to be zero it it clear what the \(\sum\) means?

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

Variance is what is called a second moment. E[X^2], where E is a function indicating the expected value of X^2. The mean is a 1st moment, E[X]. All this says is that you sum the values and weight them by the probability of it's occurrence. Since the observations are equally likely in your case you simply weight each term by 1/6. That's why the dividing by 6 makes this a variance.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the answer was 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how bout this problem?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\large \sum_{i=1}^6x_i-\overline {x}\] means \[x_1-\overline {x}+x_2-\overline {x}+x_3-\overline {x}+x_4-\overline {x}+x_5-\overline {x}+x_2-\overline {x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it has to be zero, because you are subtracting the mean from each entry and then adding

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am soo lost with that.. i moved on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets look at a simple example the mean of 10 and 12 is 11 if you compute \(10-11+12-11\) you get \(-1+1=0\)

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

That it equals zero is not surprising, you are summing the distances from the mean, positive and negative terms will cancel. If you were to square each difference and divide by 6, you would have the variance.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

always works that way

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

@4sodapop But is the meaning of this \[\Large \sum_{i=1}^6X_i\] clear to you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

That's what makes the average and average (i.e. \( \bar{x} \) ). The terms above the mean will equal the terms below the mean (in terms of distance). They will cancel.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Well then, that's basically the sum of all the terms of Xi, so if we divide it by 6, we get the mean, right? \[\Large \frac{\sum X_i}{6}=\bar X\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it true or false?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

What is true? This? Remember that the sigma just means you add them up so if you divide it by 6 (the number of terms) then you should get the mean or average...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh i thought i posted something else. i thought i posted this

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's like the generalisation for your previous question D:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

huh? i need to finish thisss, but ive been doing math non stop for 9 hours today.. my brain is fried!!

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

Take 1 value, x. It's average is x. Subtracting x from x give you zero. Take two values a and b. The average will be (a + b)/2, then a - (a+b)/2 + b - (a+b)/2 = a + b - (a + b) = 0, and so on...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

WHAT...?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Let's have a real good think. \[\Large \sum_{i=1}^n X_i\] You know what this means, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its false?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

We'll find out @4sodapop

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no..

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

You don't know what it means? D: \[\Large \sum_{i=1}^nX_i\] It just means the sum of all the terms from \(\large X_1\) to \(\large X_n\) aye? :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

So, if we divide everything by n, we get the mean, or the average \(\Large \bar X\) \[\Large \frac1n\sum_{i=1}^nX_i = \bar X\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

If we multiply both sides by n, we get...\[\Large \sum_{i=1}^nX_i = n\bar X\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Now we'll leave that... Look at this \[\Large \sum_{i=1}^n(X_i - \bar X)\] You know that the sigma distributes over addition, and subtraction, so \[\Large = \sum_{i=1}^nX_i - \sum_{i=1}^n\bar X\] Now simplify...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how...?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

how? We just arrived at a value for this... \[\LARGE \color{red}{\sum_{i=1}^nX_i}-\sum_{i=1}^n\bar X\] if you'd just scroll up at what we derived...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but we dont have numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

don't need them. they're asking for the sum of the deviations which is 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its true?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

You kept saying 'ok' I thought you understood :( Or you weren't paying attention? :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im soo lost.. :(((

OpenStudy (anonymous):

variance is this \[\frac{ \sum_{1}^{n} \left( x-\mu \right)^{2}}{ n-1 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or xbar... xbar for a sample, u for population

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there's no xbar symbol so i used u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

never mind...

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

divide by n-1 when your observations come from sampling a population. divide by n when your finding the variance of your population. in this problem, your observations are your population, it doesn't come from a larger population, because this was not mentioned.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they're not looking for the variance, but you're right... n-1 for sampling (it's unbiased) and N for population

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