Evaluate the integrals below.
\[\int\limits_{}^{} (3x \sqrt[5]{x^3 +1}) dx\]
\[\int\limits_{}^{}(8 \theta \sqrt[3]{\theta^2 -1} ) d \theta\]
\[y=\sqrt[5]{x ^{3}+1} \rightarrow x=\sqrt[3]{y ^{5}-1} \rightarrow dx = \frac{ 5y ^{4} }{ \sqrt[3]{(y ^{5}-1)^{2}} }\] thus the integral becomes :\[\int\limits_{}^{} 3\sqrt[3]{y ^{5}-1}* y * \frac{ 5y ^{4} }{ 3\sqrt[3]{(y ^{5}-1)^{2}} }\]\[5 \int\limits\limits_{}^{} \frac{ y ^{4} }{\sqrt[3]{y ^{5}-1}}*y dy\]
how do you end up evaluating that integral, it looks crazy! hah
what if we simplify it first. to \[\int\limits_{}^{} 3x(x^3+1)^{\frac{ 1 }{ 5 }}\]
now you can apply the formula of integration by parts to get: \[y \sqrt[3]{y ^{5}-1}-\int\limits_{}^{} \sqrt[3]{y ^{5}-1}\] \[\frac{ 1 }{2 } \int\limits 2y \sqrt[3]{y ^{^{2}}-1} = \frac{ 1 }{2 } (\sqrt[3]{(y ^{2}-1)^{4}}\]
dude can you please check the simplifications carefully that's really gonna take time :( , it's only an algebraic operation no, only you can simplify after substituting.. and also I am sorry if anything went wrong
@zepdrix Help? pls. haha
Have you learned Integration by Parts yet?
No I haven't.
Ok, I didn't think so. The second problem won't give us any trouble. But the first one.. hmm.. Did you paste it correctly? Or is it suppose to be x^2+1 under the root? Just checking.
it's x^3+1 under the root.
Is it supposed to be 3x^2 outside of the root? :D lol just checking again XD
for the first problem it wan't us to evaluate \[\int\limits_{}^{}(3x^5 \sqrt{x^3+1} )dx\]
Oh I see...... the 5 is suppose to be an exponent. You wrote the 5 on the root.. that's where all the confusion is :(((
Whooops just noticed that now ._. lol
Ok ok ok now this makes more sense D:
\[\Large \int\limits 3x^5 \sqrt{\color{orangered}{x^3+1}}\;dx\] Ok we'll want this orange term to be our `u`.
We'll have to do a little work to fill in all the pieces.
okay(: haha
What do you get for du?
3x^2
\[\Large \color{orangered}{u=x^3+1}\]\[\Large \color{royalblue}{du=3x^2\;dx}\]Ok good. We'll have to do something clever and break up the powers of x that are outside of the root.\[\Large \int\limits\limits 3x^5 \sqrt{\color{orangered}{x^3+1}}\;dx \qquad=\qquad \int\limits\limits 3x^2\cdot x^3 \sqrt{\color{orangered}{x^3+1}}\;dx\] So that allows us to write our integral like this,\[\Large \int\limits x^3\sqrt{\color{orangered}{x^3+1}}(\color{royalblue}{3x^2\;dx})\]Understand why I grouped it up like that?
Pay attention to the colors ^^ hehe
okay. hah(:
Brb gonna make a sammich real quick +_+ Do you understand how to plug in the u and du?
mmkays and sorta.
\[\int\limits_{}^{} x^3 \sqrt{u} (du)\]
Ok good! So our goal is to completely replace the x's with u's. Looks like we still have a little bit of work to do. How can we write x^3 in terms of u? Let's look back at our original substitution we made,\[\Large u=x^3+1\]Could we maybe solve for x^3 here?
3x^2?
mmmmmmmmm no -_- If we subtract 1 from each side it gives us,\[\Large u=x^3+1 \qquad\qquad\to\qquad\qquad x^3=u-1\]Right? :o
hahah, sorry. I seriously suck at this stuff.. but okay. makes sense! :p
\[\Large \color{purple}{x^3=u-1}\] \[\Large \int\limits\limits\limits \color{purple}{x^3}\sqrt{\color{orangered}{u}}(\color{royalblue}{du}) \qquad=\qquad \int\limits\limits\limits \color{purple}{(u-1)}\sqrt{\color{orangered}{u}}(\color{royalblue}{du})\] So I think that takes care of the last piece we needed to fix.
What's funny about U-subs is that sometimes they may not look simpler when they really are :D lol We'll be able to evaluate this integral a lot easier now. Let's rewrite our sqrt(u) as a rational expression \(\large \sqrt{u}=u^{1/2}\). Then we'll distribute it to each term inside the purple brackets.\[\Large \int\limits u\cdot u^{1/2}-u^{1/2}\;du\] Understand how to multiply u and u^1/2?
2u^1/2?
No. When we multiply terms of similar bases, we `add` the exponents.\[\Large u^1\cdot u^{1/2} \qquad=\qquad u^{1+1/2}\]So in our integral that gives us,\[\Large \int\limits u^{3/2}-u^{1/2}\;du\]
gosh.... I'm stupid. how could I have forgotten that.lol
:3
and now we reapply or subs in right?
Now we integrate. Looks like we can use the power rule here.
ohhh, right. sorry my comp froze -,-
\[\frac{ u^{\frac{ 3 }{ 2 }+1} }{ \frac{ 3 }{ 2 }+1 } - \frac{ u^{\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }+1} }{ \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }+1 }\]
Ok. \[\Large \frac{u^{5/2}}{5/2}\]So like with this first term, remember what to do when you divide by a fraction?
\[\frac{ 5u^{5/2} }{ 2 } -\frac{ 3u^{3/2} }{ 2 }\]
or would the front fraction flip?
\[\frac{2u^{5/2} }{ 5 }-\frac{ 2u^{3/2} }{ 3 }\]
Yes, good, we flip the fraction and write it as multiplication. Here is another way we can write it. A little easier to read imo :O \[\Large \frac{2u^{5/2}}{5} \qquad=\qquad \frac{2}{5}u^{5/2}\]
oh okay.. hahah
now we apply the subs? lol
Undo our sub? yes
haha that's what I ment. so for u i plug in x^3 +1 right?
mhm :x
\[=> \frac{ 2 }{ 5 } (x^3+1)^{5/2} - \frac{ 2 }{ 3 }(x^3+1)^{3/2}\]
yay good job \:o/
is that all, or do I have to simplify it more?
No, that's all.
oh okay!(: hahah and for the second one.
\[\Large \int\limits 8\theta\;\sqrt[3]{\theta^2 -1}\;d\theta\]Is the 3 on the root?
yes it is. I double checked lol
\[\Large \int\limits\limits 8\theta\;\sqrt[3]{\color{orangered}{\theta^2 -1}}\;d\theta\]Ok this one will be a tad easier than the last. So there is our u in orange, du=?
\[du=2\theta\]
btw for the last one it's +C right? cause there is no given interval
\[\Large \color{orangered}{u=\theta^2-1}\]\[\Large \color{royalblue}{2\theta\;d \theta}\]Hmm ok. So we'll need to do what we did in the last problem. We'll need to fiddle with it and pull a 2theta out of the mix. 8=4*2 right? so let's pull the 2 out of there.\[\Large \int\limits\limits\limits 8\theta\;\sqrt[3]{\color{orangered}{\theta^2 -1}}\;d\theta \qquad=\qquad \int\limits 4 \sqrt[3]{\color{orangered}{\theta^2-1}}(\color{royalblue}{2\theta\;d \theta})\]
Oh true. It was an `indefinite` integral. No limits, so yes we'll have to throw a +C onto the end to show it represents the whole family of solutions :U
okay, I got the same results so far.
Since 4 is just a constant, we can pull it outside of the integral.\[\Large 4\int\limits \sqrt[3]{\color{orangered}{u}}(\color{royalblue}{du})\]
And again, we'll want to write this as a rational expression: \(\large \sqrt[3]{u}=u^{1/3}\) and apply the power rule.
\[4\int\limits_{}^{}u^{1/3} du\]
mhm
then i aintiderive.
\[4\int\limits_{}^{}\frac{ 3 }{ 4 }u^{1/3} du\]
@zepdrix
Hmm your power didn't increase for some reason.. And remember, when you anti-differentiate, the squiggly bar and du should disappear.
\[4*\frac{ 3 }{ 4 }u^{4/3} du\]
\[=>3u^{4/3}du\]
D:::::::::::::: "And remember, when you anti-differentiate, the \(\bf \text{squiggly bar}\) and \(\bf\text{du}\) should disappear."
ahhh! lol \[=> 3u^{4/3} \]
yay good job \c:/\[\large 3u^{4/3}+C\]
but I sub \[(\theta^2 -1)\] back in right?
Oh true :U
yay! thank you so much for all the help!(: I really appreciate it!
np \c:/
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