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OpenStudy (anonymous):

help medal

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (debbieg):

*getting a sore neck* lol OK, F(x) = 3x + 6 We've done other problems like this, so what's the first step? Put the question in y=f(x) notation, e.g. y = 3x + 6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

move the x and y

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Now, an inverse swaps the domain and range of a function. So this is where NORMALLY we would change the x to a y and the y to an x. However, as we've talked about before, your teacher seems to want you to give the inverse as a function of y (not standard... you might ask about that???) so you should really just SOLVE FOR x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

remember last time you help well i got all of them wrongg -_-

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Well, if you mean switch the x to y and the y to x, that's hard to answer here because of your teacher's unusual notation. Normally the inverse of the function F(x) is given by \(F^{-1}(x)\), not as \(F^{-1}(y)\). But since your teacher used the notation \(F^{-1}(y)\), I'm assuming that (s)he wants it to be a function of y.

OpenStudy (debbieg):

OK, 2 questions: 1. how did you do it last time? did you give your answer as a function of y, or of x? 2. Did you ask the teacher why they were all wrong? Did you get any feedback? Because that goofy notation is really throwing me. I can explain it either way, but I'm not sure what your teacher wants.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did u see the pic what it telln me to solve for

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Yes, I saw the picture. The picture says to find "the inverse of F(x)"... that's cool, I know how to do that. But that is called \(F^{-1}(x)\), NOT \(F^{-1}(y)\) as your teacher's notation says. \(F^{-1}(x)\) is a function of x, and that is how the inverse of a function of x is normally given. \(F^{-1}(y)\) would be a function of y.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok im lost

OpenStudy (debbieg):

ACTUALLY, \(F^{-1}(y)\) SHOULD be the function I get, if I take an inverse of a function of y. E.g., if I have a function \(F(y)=3y-7\) and I take it's inverse, THEN I should get a function that I would call \(F^{-1}(y)\). The inverse of a function of x should be a function of x; the inverse of a function of y should be a function of y. The inverse of a function of x should not be a function of y.

OpenStudy (debbieg):

*sigh* I know you are, and I'm sorry. Finding the inverse of this function is NOT hard. It's just the notation being used by your teacher that is making it complicated. So let me ask again: OK, 2 questions: 1. how did you do it last time? did you give your answer as a function of y, or of x? 2. Did you ask the teacher why they were all wrong? Did you get any feedback? Because that goofy notation is really throwing me. I can explain it either way, but I'm not sure what your teacher wants.

OpenStudy (debbieg):

@amistre64 @AkashdeepDeb have either of you seen this weird kind of notation for the inverse before? Any thoughts??

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes, there is still debate about it :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the inverse of f(x) is such that the values that relate to x are a function composed of y values

OpenStudy (debbieg):

LOL so do you think he should just solve the equation as-is for x, and let that be the inverse, x as a function of y?

OpenStudy (akashdeepdeb):

How much is? F^-1(x) guys?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f(x) = 3x+6 f(x) is some curve in the xy plane such that for any given value of x gives us a value such that y = f(x) y = 3x+6 , the inverse of this setup is such that: (y-6)/3 produces the values of x that relate to inputs of y

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i believe that he should simply solve for the inverse and keep it as a function of y ...

OpenStudy (akashdeepdeb):

Can you please tell me the value of F^-1(x) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can someone teach me how to solve please

OpenStudy (debbieg):

Thanks for the input. @AkashdeepDeb I didn't understand your question... lol. I'll have to read up on this, as I've always taught it with switch and solve.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

spose \(f:X\to Y\) and \(g:Y\to X\) such that \(f\) and \(g\) have an inverse relationship to each other .... etc

OpenStudy (amistre64):

http://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/function-inverse.html

OpenStudy (debbieg):

@AkashdeepDeb \(f^{-1}(x)\) maps the element x in the range of F back to x in the domain of F....?? I'm not sure what you're looking for. Maybe we should take this to another post so as not to give @romanortiz65 nightmares, lol.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup xD im totaly losttt

OpenStudy (debbieg):

@romanortiz65 here is what you need to know: You have y = 3x+6 Solve it for x, so you will have x={some stuff that involves y} Then that is your \(f^{-1}(y)\), eg, \(f^{-1}(y)=\text{{some stuff that involves y}}\)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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