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OpenStudy (anonymous):

evaluate this limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}(\frac{ 1 }{ x }-\frac{ 1 }{ 5 })(\frac{ 1 }{ x^3-4x^2-5x })\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

seems why you graph it it tends to -1/750

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when*

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I wonder... could we instead, reduce it to a single fraction bar? So much simpler that way...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(5-x)/(5x*(x^3 - 4x^2 -5x)), i think it is infinity cuz the denominator is zero too when x->5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\frac{ 5-x }{ 5x(x^3-4x^2-5x) }\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\left(\frac{5-x}{5x}\right)\left(\frac{ 1 }{ x^3-4x^2-5x }\right)\] \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\left(\frac{5-x}{5x( x^3-4x^2-5x)}\right)\] \[\Large\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\left(\frac{5-x}{5 x^4-20x^3-25x^2}\right)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

seperate now?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Are we, perhaps, allowed to use L'Hôpital?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nup!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

says not to

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

ohh.. Well, no problem :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait it doesn't say u need to or not. thats for the other question

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

We just have to identify the largest exponent which x is given, in this case, 4 \[\Large\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\left(\frac{5-x}{5\color{red}{ x^4}-20x^3-25x^2}\right)\] right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now u divide everything by x^4?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Let's be formal... we multiply everything by... \[\LARGE \frac{\frac1{x^4}}{\frac1{x^4}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh k fair.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get 0?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

On second thought, that may not work out as intended... recalculating :3

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I forgot it wasn't a limit to infinity... sorry, old habits die hard :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Start from here... \[\LARGE \lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\quad\frac{ 5-x }{ 5x(x^3-4x^2-5x) }\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And factor the denominator.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

If they are both zero at x = 5, then that must mean x-5 is a factor of the denominator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\frac{ 5-x }{ 5x(x-5)(x)(x+1) }\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I bet you can see where this is going now? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\frac{ 5-x }{ 5x^2(x-5)(x+1) }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YEP

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can just put a negaitve and change it to x-5

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yeah, sorry for that false lead :) Let me just make that tweak, to, err, make amends XD \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 5}\frac{ -1(x-5) }{ 5x^2(x-5)(x+1) }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha thats why graphing is good! yep it comes to -1/750

OpenStudy (anonymous):

gooood!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about this one!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{ \tan4x }{ 5x^2+2x }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no L'Hopital though

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Ooooh... let's have a look...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we can factor out x?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then we have sin4x/x i think i know where this might go to!

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

okay... tell me...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

gimmi a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{ \sin4x }{ x }\frac{ 1 }{ \cos4x(5x+2) }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now we multiply both numerator and denominator by 4

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Just go on...

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

While I silently ponder whether or not you needed my help with this question at all XD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{ \sin4x }{ 4x }\frac{ 4 }{ \cos4x(5x+2) }\] \[\lim_{4x \rightarrow 0}\frac{ \sin4x }{ 4x }\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{ 4 }{ \cos4x(5x+2) }\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Of course, that second line is only possible because both limits exist ;)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And so the limit of the entire thingy is...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah yes! since both limits exist. thats important

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And... you're right. So... remind me again what you needed me for? ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahaha re-assurance!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and ur crazy good!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

except ucouldn't help me with that linear algebra proof :( i think i nutted it out though not sure

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I don't really do linear algebra... matrices hate me ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha ohh well! thanks for that! terenz to the rescue once again!

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

^_^

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