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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is ∃x∃y(p(x) and q(y)) equivalent to [∃x(p(x) and ∃x(q(y))]?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know a single existential quantifier is not distributable over conjunction but it seems they would be in this case.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

No.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

∃x(q(y)) doesn't exactly make sense either.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry it should be ∃x(q(x))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you have a counter example because I really can't find any. It seems to be true to me.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

if you mean ∃x(q(x)) it might be true...

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

∃x∃y(p(x) and q(y)) =∃x∃yp(x) AND ∃x∃yq(y) =∃xp(x) AND ∃yq(y)

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

not sure what the justification between steps 1 and 2 are, but I believe you might find something out treating ∃ as the compound OR operation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It seems that if ∃x∃y(p(x) and q(y)) is true. Then P(x) is true and q(y) is true. Then you can prove the converse. Seems to make sense but I'm not convinced. Anyways thanks

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

yeah if you really want to you can expand the statements out with existential generalization and existential instantiation...

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