Question

Repect proteins.
Donot call protein formed by atomic bonds :P

Answer 1

yes ryaan

Answer 2

Is it okay if we discuss here?

Answer 3

okay cool

Answer 4

see this is what is peptide bonds....
A peptide bond (amide bond) is a covalent chemical bond formed between two molecules when the carboxyl group of one molecule reacts with the amino group of the other molecule, causing the release of a molecule of water (H2O), hence the process is a dehydration synthesis reaction (also known as a condensation reaction), and usually occurs between amino acids. The resulting C(O)NH bond is called a peptide bond, and the resulting molecule is an amide.

Answer 5

Primary Atomic Bonds types
Ionic Bonds
Covalent Bonds
Metallic Bonds

Answer 6

and peptide bond is a covalent chemical bond

Answer 7

Okay!

So, you already know about my confusion!

I'm asking ''WHY would it be WRONG to say''

''PROTEIN are formed when CHEMICAL REATIONS joins ATOMS together''

PEPTIDE BONDS are COVALENT BONDS you said..Right?
Now Covalent bonds are not atomic bonds?

Answer 8

covalent bond is a ype of atomic bond...

Answer 9

see basically its not just proteins that are formed after a chemical reactions occur and atoms ar joined.

Answer 10

when atoms are joined a molecule is formed

Answer 11

So, COVALENT BONDS are atomic bonds! right?

Now, how can we differentiate PEPTIDE BONDS and ATOMIC BONDS?
Why can't we say PEPTIDE BONDS as ATOMIC bonds since PEPTIDE BONDS are COVALENT CHEMICAL BONDS that are ATOMIC bonds..

Answer 12

Right!
Can't we say PROETIEN is a MOLECULE?

Answer 13

yes that is my ques as well...if we say that peptide bond is covalent bond then it obviosly comes under atomic bond.

Answer 14

This is my CONFUSION and ABBOT said that It's WRONG!

ATOMIC BONDS are Different from PEPTIDE bonds!

Answer 15

wait ill include a chem guy in dis...

Answer 16

he is ofline...:(

Answer 17

@sarah786 ....can u help out wid dis?

Answer 18

but ryaan did u understand that every chemical reacn does not form protein...rite?

Answer 19

It's alright!


But, I'm asking about PROTEIN!
But can't we say PROTEIN formed from CHEMICAL reactions? :/

Answer 20

Is it wrong to say? :I

Answer 21

u can...according to me...formation of protein is a chemical reacn...

Answer 22

proteins basically formed by chains of amino acids ..these chains are linked with each other with peptide bonds which formed after removal of water like condensation reactions

Answer 23

@sarah786 This is not what I'm confused with!

Answer 24

So, when PROTEIN is a molecule that is formed from CHEMICAL REACTION.
The only confusion is :
PEPTIDE BONDS and ATOMIC BONDS.
Atomic bonds are covalent bonds.
Covalent bonds are chemical bonds!

My confusing mind has made me more confuse and I want to know!
Why it's wrong to say then!
''PROTEIN are formed when chemical reaction joins atoms together..''

If we say that way: It shouldn't be wrong!
And you're agree with me right?

Answer 25

Or, do you also think I'm TOTALLY WRONG!?
What I'm saying is wrong? @shrutipande9 :I

Answer 26

do u understand that here we are talkin about generalized chemical reaction and not only about proteins?

Answer 27

Yes, but
I'm talking about my confusion!

Answer 28

in generallized terms u cannot say that proteins are formed...u say molecules or bonds are formed. and 1 of the eg can be proteins.

Answer 29

i got u...v can call peptide bond as atomic bond bcuz it is a covalent bond. and covalent bond is type of atomic bond

Answer 30

@chmvijay ...could u help out?

Answer 31

I know, in generalized term it is BONDS!

But I'm asking ''Why would it be wrong to say if we say PROTIEN formed!

Answer 32

according 2 me it is not wrong....lets ask dis phd guy

Answer 33

ohh great he just went offline:\

Answer 34

Woah! Ph.d guy! :D

Answer 35

so according 2 me u r still right....lets ask d chem ppl...u know i m bio girl...not vry fond of chem.

Answer 36

I'm on the introductory level of all these bondings!
If I didn't understand it well at this level, then it will be difficult to understand everything on higher level!

So, I want to make it clear to me about my concepts!that's all!

Answer 37

u r rite...now lets wait for d chem guys...lets c if nebdy can help

Answer 38

I hope they'll make it clear to me!

Answer 39

i hope 2!

Answer 40

(Trying to explain myself!)

Peptide-Bond Formation. The linking of two amino acids is accompanied by the loss of a molecule of water. means condensation.


The word "condensation" suggests a process in which two or more things are brought "together"


Like in this picture.

Answer 41

Another example:
Glycine condensation.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Glycine-condensation-2-3D-balls.png

Answer 42

In other words, Protein formed from Peptide bonds, and peptide bonds formed by linking of two amino acids by condensation process.

Answer 43

But, we can say peptides as amide and amide as chemical bonds and chemical bonds are atomic bonds.

lol, I couldn't solve my problem myself!
still stuck on the same confusion..

Answer 44

just chill @Ryaan. right now not many ppl are online....after 2-3 hrs u will get the ans....have a lil patience.

Answer 45

Sure, Ma'am!

Answer 46

dnt call me maam :P it feels as if i am d oldie in this grup:P

Answer 47

lol, sorry I actually call some as teacher and sir if they once taught me something!
So in respect I call them Ma'am and Sir!

Answer 48

hehe...den its ok:P

Answer 49

@ryaan wat are pGA molecules...it seems i hv forgotten:P

Answer 50

Phosphoglyceric acids? :P

Answer 51

ohh..ya...:P ill have 2 ttyl...i m gonna study for a while....bye

Answer 52

@ryaan, so your confusion stems from the naming of the bonds?

"Atomic bonds" is not a term used, the term used is "chemical bonds"

chemical bonds join 2 atoms together.
they have subsets: Ionic, covalent, metallic (which is based on their strength)

covalent bonds have subsets, but all covalent bonds are similar in their "sharing" characteristic (in that they have a pair of electrons between them which creates attraction go each nuclei to the electron pair, which we call a bond).

"types" (they're all covalent bonds) of covalent bonds in biology, peptide bonds, glycosidic bonds, disulfide bonds, etc.

Answer 53

thnx @aaronq...so we can call peptide bonds as a subset of atomic bonds rite? as they are type of covalent bond?

Answer 54

yep. though i'd use the term chemical bond, not atomic bond, because "atomic bonds" refers to atoms binding, not molecules. Amino acids, as you know, are molecules not atoms.

Answer 55

ya ya got u....thnx a ton:)

Answer 56

@ryaan...see u got ur answer...u were partly rite;)

Answer 57

no probs !

Answer 58

Cool! So I was not wrong..:D

Answer 59

So, we can't use the term atomic bonds when when we are talking about proteins.
If we say protein formed from (chemical bonding) it would be right now?

Answer 60

@ryaan....yes chemical bond is a very appropriate word wid respect to proteins.

Answer 61

Alright! Thank you @shrutipande9 and @aaronq as well!

No more confusion now :3