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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Determine the P-value for the hypothesis test. See attachment.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64 can u help with this?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if i can read it ...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the Pvalue, is the tail values when using one of the means as a reference point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok?...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you should be able to find a zscore, and a right tail value using:\[Z=\frac{\mu_{f} -\mu_{sp}}{\frac{10.5}{\sqrt{25}}+\frac{13}{\sqrt{27}}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I thought i was supposed to be using T not Z.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

.... then use the T :) but it has something to do with that sort of setup i believe

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i forget the "degree of freedom" associated with it to run a t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Cant u be awesome and just give me the answer?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

of course not ... even if I knew the answer :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol then can't u figure it out? cause it don't help if u don't know the answer.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

im sure i can figure it out ... just have to review some stuff in my textbook :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is the example i have for this. It's not very helpful tho.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its a little useful .....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol not to me. They don't show how they got there answer.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

a t formula for 2 means, from my book says \[t=\frac{\bar x_1-\bar x_2}{\sqrt{\frac{s^2}{n_1}+\frac{s^2}{n_2}}}\] \[t=\frac{72.6-67.1}{\sqrt{\frac{10.5^2}{25}+\frac{13^2}{27}}}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

im getting t = 1.68 have you already got a t score for this?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

using "technology"; my ti83 has a tcdf function that takes the parameters: low, high, df

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm trying to work this hang on.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

low is our t score high is some arbitrary large value in this case and the df is .. 24

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 1.68 as the answer to.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

im assuming you have a few freebies; see if .053 gets accepted as the Pvalue

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YAY THAT WAS RIGHT!!!!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

whew .... i was worried if that t score was done right lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how did u get that?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the formula in my book says; subtract the means, and divide by that sqrt stuff. so thats what I did

OpenStudy (amistre64):

that t score i used in the tcdf function; using 9999 as some large number to find the area in the right tail with. the lowest df was 25-1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

when i hit enter, it said .052964... lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

english!!! lol i need to write it in my notes.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

subtract one mean from the other; divide it by ..\[\sqrt{\frac{(s_1)^2}{n_1}+\frac{(s_2)^2}{n_2}}\] and that gets you a t score

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yah i got that

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then i found a tcdf function on my calculator; do you ahve a calculator to use?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have this one

OpenStudy (amistre64):

hmm, i got no idea where, or if, that has a tcdf function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yah probably not. one sec i'll look

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm not seeing it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well i'll skip it for now and figure it out later.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

hit shift, 1, stat what do you see for a menu?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nothing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'll work on that later when i find the manual thing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thx 4 the help tho!!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

well, the results are the output from the tcdf function, so if there is no way to get to it ... the rest is just up in the air

OpenStudy (amistre64):

maybe mode, 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know how to find t now so i can use a P-value calculator online if i need to.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, just make sure you get the area under the proper tail :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

im off to pick up the kids ... good luck

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