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OpenStudy (precal):

need help with second derivatives of calculus problems

OpenStudy (precal):

\[2y-x+xy=4\]

OpenStudy (precal):

\[\frac{ dy }{ dx }=\frac{ 1-y }{ 2+x }\] I know this is the first derivative

OpenStudy (precal):

I need help finding the second derivative

hartnn (hartnn):

so, apply quotient rule

hartnn (hartnn):

or if you want to simplify things,

hartnn (hartnn):

2y' -1 +xy' +y = 0 take the derivative here itself!

OpenStudy (precal):

ok give me a second, nice to see you again, I have been very busy lately that is why I have not been around

hartnn (hartnn):

no problem, good to see you too :)

hartnn (hartnn):

i would suggest applying derivative here 2y' -1 +xy' +y = 0 instead of quotient rule...

OpenStudy (precal):

yes I was using dy/dx notation and it was getting messy

OpenStudy (precal):

2y"+y'+y"+y'=0 correct

OpenStudy (precal):

3y"+2y'=0

OpenStudy (precal):

I sub for y' correct

hartnn (hartnn):

wait, how did you differentiate xy' ?

OpenStudy (precal):

who knows I don't really use prime notation on these, good chance I messed it up

hartnn (hartnn):

ok, for xy' first we diff. x and keep y' as it is so, just y' then we diff. y' and keep x as it is so, xy'' so, derivative of xy' will be y' + xy'' got this ?

OpenStudy (precal):

so it should be 2y"+y'+y"x+y'=0

hartnn (hartnn):

2y"+y'+xy"+y' = 0 same thing , right ?

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, but did you get how ?

OpenStudy (precal):

yes sorry looking at my paper so y"=(-2y')/(2+x) now I just sub for y' correct

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, correct

OpenStudy (precal):

cool thank you. I will try to switch notation (makes the problem easier to deal with)

hartnn (hartnn):

welcome ^_^

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