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OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Help with this please?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

I've gotten the inequality to equal 0 so I had -2x^2 - 4x - 1 = 0, since it can't be factored I'm using the quadratic formula (-b +/- sqrtb^2 - 4ac over 2a) to the point where I've gotten to 4 +/- sqrt 24 over 4..I'm not sure what to do next?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I see... you've gotten to the roots, then. There are only three intervals to worry about, they're the ones defined by your roots.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Your inequality was \(\large 2x^2 +4x + 1 > 0\) yes?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

no my original eq2uality was 4x > -1 - 2x^

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

2x^2*

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I know that, but this is equivalent, right? I just brought the terms over to the left side.

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

I think so Yea

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And you factored it, you got the roots. So you want that thing on the left to be positive (greater than zero) So what I want you to do is consider these three intervals: \[\large \left(-\infty, \frac{4-\sqrt{24}}{4}\right)\quad,\quad\left(\frac{4-\sqrt{24}}{4},\frac{4+\sqrt{24}}{4}\right)\quad,\quad \left(\frac{4+\sqrt{24}}{4},\infty\right)\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Kept them open since obviously, the roots themselves won't be solutions, since we want the left-polynomial to be strictly positive.

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

I don't really understand what we're doing haha, this isn't in my book so I'm kinda lost xD

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Sorry... mind telling me what the book says?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

sure one second

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

hmm, your book is Wrong

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

It is?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yes, the answer provided is does not answer the question,

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

oh there's another page I didn't include

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

oh

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

In order to solve my problem, should I sqrt 24 and round it to the nearest tenth and go from there?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[4x>-1-2x^2\\2x^2+4x+1>0\] the related equation \[2x^2+4x+1=0\] \[x=\frac{-4\pm\sqrt{4^2-4(2)(1)}}{2(2)}\\=\frac{-4\pm\sqrt{16-8}}{4}\\=\]

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

ohh you added it to the other side, I subtracted 4x okay

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

16- 8 is 8..so we're still stuck with a number that can't be sqrted

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

well 8 = 4 . 2 so √8 = √4 . √2 = 2√2

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

so now we have -4 +/- 2sqrt2 over 4 so now we have to do the +/- part?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

so you have x=(-4 ± 2√2) /4 which means there are two solutions x_1=(-4 + 2√2) /4 x_2=(-4 - 2√2) /4 solve each case

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

x_1=(-4 + 2√2) /4 =-4/4 + 2√2/4

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

so that equals -1 + sqrt2?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yep what about x_2

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

-1 - sqrt2?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yes

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

so those are the two boundary points

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

x=x_1 and x=x_2

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

√2 is about one and a half units

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

so about 1.4?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yeah,

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

hang on, wait a minute, what happen on those boundary points x_1=(-4 + 2√2) /4 =-4/4 + 2√2/4 =-1 - (2/4) √2 =

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

oh so it'd be -1 - .5sqrt2 which is .5 + sqrt2?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

=-1 - (2/4) √2 =-1 - (1/2) √2 =-1 -(√2)/2 =-1 -.5√2

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

so -1.5 + sqrt2?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

you cant simply further

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

ohh right, its connected to the sqrt2

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

can you find the points on the number line ?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

I think so...-.5 * sqrt2 is -.7 so -1.7?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yeah that is right (to 1 decimal place)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

what about the other boundary value? (again to 1 d.p.)

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

-2.4?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

=-1 +.5√2

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

-.3

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yes, now can you mark -1.7 and -.3 on the number line ?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Yes

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