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OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

What are the derivatives and all this calc-precalc staff for in real life?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I think it is useless.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's really not, it helps you find equations

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

everything is useless when we don't have notion of them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when you get to ap calc, you'll see the applications

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I mean like, you can use a graph in real life, lets say you have 100 companies selling and shipping computers in large numbers, would graph each company's equation to see for x number of computers which will be the cheapest.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Well, all of this "stuff" can be used in the average rates and changes, you should limits first.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

It helps calculate things in businesses and companies and many other things.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

calc?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

There is a course called "personal Finanse" for this.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

it is a subject.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

subject, whatever, you get my point, calc is not necessary for business.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

calculus is used in the fields of engineering

OpenStudy (shamil98):

computer science.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

accountant..

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

OK, for engineering, but in college no matter what your job is, you will have to take precalc, don't you?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Pre-calc is NOT necessary for calculus.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

for others, but for the rest of the jobs, why do I need to take it in college, (or high school)

OpenStudy (shamil98):

All it is is a review of algebra 2 and it explores some fundamentals of calc.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

well most majors require calculus.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

not most, but many

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I didn't say that Pre-calc is NOT necessary for calculus. Calc is not a rvw for Alg 2 only needed for 3-4 jobs, and college makes you larn it no matter what your job will be

OpenStudy (shamil98):

pre-calc is not needed to take calculus, i should've said that.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

you should explore your major options, and find out why those in partiucular require calc.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

that would take for ever, but, tnx for clarifying.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

calc is a very interesting subject.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Lmao

OpenStudy (shamil98):

if you try it you might it like it :P

OpenStudy (shamil98):

i'm 15 and learning calculus by myself, as a side ambition. Knowledge is power. But don't seek knowledge for power. Seek knowledge for the sake of increasing your knowledge :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

You are an exception to a rule, but yeah, cool, 15 and calc..... if you try to make something that you hate interesting, it will be interesting? Id think that's really true, esp regarding higher math.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

you dislike math?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I like alg2 and a little trig.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

If you understand the math, i don't see why you would hate it lol

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

but PHD math? NO! you just answered your own question, id understand the use of math.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Basics yes, trig and above, no!

OpenStudy (shamil98):

well I didn't say to get phD in math , even i think that's only for people who like really love math lmao

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I am just wasting your time!

OpenStudy (shamil98):

the higher math levels are nice to know though

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

nice to know? For 3 4 jobs out of 100.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

google jobs that require math.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

there are a lot more

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

For highest math, not that many.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

it's not like you're gonna major in math, all you needs is calc 1 and 2 and 3 .

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Also, make tat as a unique training for a specific job, don't tell, lets say me, to learn this bull.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

what're you planning to major in?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

That link kills me, I can't go through it entirely..... I'll say yes, and think no! Yes!

OpenStudy (shamil98):

what major you going into in college lol

OpenStudy (shamil98):

the major itself won't be based completely on math, just a few general ed classes of calc or other math classes

OpenStudy (shamil98):

unless you plan on majoring in math ofc

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I am thinking about something that has to do with banks.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

so accounting? or business?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I mean that doesn't need calc, doe it?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

maybe computer science to program things with python

OpenStudy (shamil98):

you should look at the university you're applying to and look at the classes needed to get a bachelor's degree in that

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I think like those people that work for taxes companies, idk what these jobs are called, but like some sort of detective who checks all operations and money transactions and etc,.... (u probably didn't understand this, but)

OpenStudy (shamil98):

accountants then

OpenStudy (shamil98):

yep that requires a lot of math

OpenStudy (shamil98):

business calculus and statistics is most likely what u will be taking

OpenStudy (shamil98):

and finite math

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, kind of understood, but again, if a job requires math, make that part of a training for that specific job.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

you take all these courses in highschool to give you options

OpenStudy (shamil98):

you are given two years in college to finish your general ed classes again to give you options

OpenStudy (shamil98):

who knows you might have your mind set now but you might change it in your 2nd year of college

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So just decide earlier in like 10th grade, what is you job? and then train for that jb, whatever it takes... it would mean to change the system, but wouldn't it be better this way?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

nope, you are given options, more options more freedom of choice right? if we all followed one set things like you're destined to become a doctor your life would be miserable and boring

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Ik, but you misread my reply. I mean the following Have middle school what is from 9th grade -till 2nd year college would be training for new job in a specific job school you have all options, but you decide before....

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

Here's a real world example: http://www.1728.org/minmax3.htm (I wanted to copy and paste that example on Open Study but I guess it had too much text and it had a graphic).

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I can answer any questions about the figure, without calc.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I can find the remaining thing in the triangle w/o calculus.

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