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OpenStudy (anonymous):

find the root of z = (-1)^(1/4) given (-1)^(1/4) wherein: n = 4 r = -1 with the formulas: R = (r)^(n) phi = (deta + 2(pi)(k))/n and w = R(cos phi + isin phi) i know r and n but how do i find deta to solve for phi?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are looking for the fourth roots of \(-1\) right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is the unit circle in the complex plane should be more or less clear that the angle made by \(-1\) is \(\pi\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

divide that by \(4\) and get \(\frac{\pi}{4}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

then what if it has an i ? i.e: (-1 + i)^(1/3) x = -1 y = 1 tan deta = 1/-1 = -1 deta = -45 = pi/4 but when i used my calculator the answer is (3pi)/4 can you please tell me what I missed?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what if what was \(i\) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im looking for deta. (like in (-1)^(1/4) where its deta = pi)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooh i see ok lets go slow because you made at least two mistakes above

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the calculator says its deta is (3pi/4) but when i tried to solve it i got pi/4 instead (without the 3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first of all it is not true that \(\theta=\tan^{-1}(\frac{b}{a})\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\tan^{-1}(\theta)\)is always a number between \(-\frac{\pi}{2}\) and \(\frac{\pi}{2}\) but your angle may not be in that range

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahhh...so what should I use?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

your example was \(-1+i\) so first you should see where that is |dw:1386123634883:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it should now be clear, that even though \(\tan^{-1}(-1)=-\frac{\pi}{4}\) your angle is not \(-\frac{\pi}{4}\) but rather \(\frac{3\pi}{4}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you have to know where you are is all if you are in quadrant II or III then you cannot use \(\tan^{-1}(\frac{b}{a})\) except as a reference

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uhm...i dont understand the graph...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(-1+i\) left \(1\) unit, up \(1\) unit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just like plotting the point \((-1,1)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah, i understand how you graph it. what i dont understand is how (-1,1) = (3pi)/4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is not equal to \(\frac{3\pi}{4}\) the angle it makes with the positive real axis is \(\frac{3\pi}{4}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah, i undestandhow you got (-1,1). what i dont undestand was how (-1,1) = 3pi/4

OpenStudy (alekos):

did you get your answer to this?

OpenStudy (perl):

there is a straightforward way to answer this. you want to solve z^4 = -1 then z^4=1*[cos (pi + 2pi*k) + i sin(0+ 2pi*k)] then we use demoivre's theorem z = 1^(1/4)*[ cos (pi/4 +2pi/4*k) + i sin(0 + 2pi/4*k)] , k = 0,1,2,3

OpenStudy (perl):

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