Using the given zero, find one other zero of f(x). Explain the process you used to find your solution. 1 - 6i is a zero of f(x) = x^4 - 2x^3 + 38x^2 - 2x + 37.
Because 1-6i is a zero, 1+6i also must be a 0
I know how to do the 1-6i part, and I got the x^2+x+37, but how do I find the other roots?
quadratic
I know that... But is there any way to find the (x-a) roots?
no, 37 is prime
unless you did the 1-6i part wrong lol
(x-(1-6i)) and (x+(1-6i)) right?
I mean when you find all the zeros for one of these, you get (x-a), (x-a), (x-(1-6i)), and (x-(1+6i))..
Im not sure I follow you
its not necessarily both (x-a)
I know that.. that's just the formula. Normally when they give you a problem like this, they want you to do the opposite, and they give you all of the roots. For example, earlier I did a problem, and the roots wer (x-3), (x+13), (x+(5+4i)), and (x-(5-4i)). See what I mean?
@Isaiah.Feynman
Shoot! I forget this..
:c Think harddd.
here we go again it is actually very easy
\[5+4i\] is a zero so lets work backwards \[x=5+4i\\ x-5=4i\\ (x-5)^2=(4i)^2=-16\\ x^2-10x+25=-16\\ x^2-10x+41=0\]
easiest of all is to memorize that if \(a+bi\) is the zero of a quadratic, then it is \[x^2-2ax+(a^2+b^2)=0\]
in this case you have \(1-6i\) and \(1+6i\) so your quadratic is \[x^2-2x+(1^2+6^2)=x^2-2x+17\]
oops that was wrong \[x^2-2x+(1^1+6^2)=x^2-2x+37\]
Why didn't I get the 2x in the middle, or why did you?
ok i see that you almost had that not quite, but almost so you have \[(x^2-2x+37)(ax^2+bx+c)=x^4 - 2x^3 + 38x^2 - 2x + 37\] and it should be clear that \(a=1\) and \(b=1\) making it \[(x^2-2x+37)(x^2+bc+1)=x^4 - 2x^3 + 38x^2 - 2x + 37\]
i got it by memorization, but working backwards also give it to you \[x=1+6i\\ x-1=6i\\ (x-1)^2=(6i)^2=-36\\ x^2-2x+1=-36\\ x^2-2x+37=0\]
assuming you get that, are you good to this step \[(x^2-2x+37)(x^2+bc+1)=x^4 - 2x^3 + 38x^2 - 2x + 37\] ? because we are still not done
Oh, I see what I did. Nevermind. Continue.
On the second group of three, how did you know the last number is a 1?
first of all a made a stupid typo, let me correct it\[(x^2-2x+37)(x^2+bx+1)=x^4 - 2x^3 + 38x^2 - 2x + 37\]
take a look and see if it is obvious or not that the last number in the second trinomial has to be 1
Haha. You're good. And I see the 1 now, because we have to keep that 37.
ok good just like we know the first term is \(x^2\) and not for example \(3x^2\)
Exactly. Let's continue.
now how about \(b\) ?
we have a couple choices lets do an easy one on the right hand side of the equal sign you have \(-2x\) where is the \(x\) term going to come from on the left hand side?
b would be a 2, right? So that you would multiply it by the x^2, and get 2x^3.
when you multiply out on the left, there will be two place to get an \(x\) term: \(37\times bx\) and \(1\times (-2x)\)
that means \(37bx-2x\) has to be \(-2x\) i.e. \[37b-2=-2\] making \(b=0\)
So lost me there. Hang on...
there are a couple places on the left to get an \(x^3\) term, not just one
when you multiply \((x^2-2x+37)(x^2+bx+1)\) there will be two product that will give you \(x^3\) they come form \(x^2\times bx\) and also \(-2x\times x^2\)
this means \(bx^3-2x^3=-2x^3\) (because that is what you have on the right) so once again \(b=0\)
Where did you get a -2?
on the right hand side or on the left hand side? the \(-2x^3\) is on the right hand side because it is
lets look at this again \[(x^2-2x+37)(x^2+bx+1)\]
I wrote it down wrong. Ugh. Okay, I'm caught up now.
ok so you see that if you multiply out on the left, there will be two products to give an \(x^3\) term one is \(x^2\times bx\), the other is \(-2x\times x^2\) when you go to combine like terms you will have \[bx^3-2x^2\] but this must match on the right with \(-2x^3\) making \(b=0\)
typo again , i meant \(bx^3-2x^3\) sorry
Yes, so b=0. Got it.
right, and we didn't have to pick \(x^3\) term to look at, we could have done it as i did at first matching up the \(x\) terms left and right
way above i wrote \(37bx-2x\) which has to be \(-2x\) once again making \(b=0\)
you can pick whichever one you like, it has to work with all of them
Okay, well now we got back to the original problem, but how do we find the zeros?
now we know \(b=0\) it is easy
\[(x^2-2x+37)(x^2+1)=0\]
we already have the zero of \(x^2-2x+37\) as \(1\pm 6i\) now set \[x^2+1=0\] and solve in your head
Oh, I knew that. Blonde moment. Okay, so they are going to be imaginary numbers.
yes, two rather famous ones
So they would be 1+6i, 1-6i, and +i, and -i?
yes
Awesome! Thanks so much! God bless you! :D
lets check it www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+x^4+-+2x^3+%2B+38x^2+-+2x+%2B+37
yw, my pleasure
I have that site on my desktop from one of the last times you helped me. :P Lol. It gave me the same, (x^2+1). We're good. :)
I'll be back tomorrow. I have lots of quizzes to take. Ha. :p
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