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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this one looks hard :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YEa this one I am not sure on, didn't deal with much in terms of differentials in these kinds of story problems :/ sorry hopefully jziggy can help!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok ill give u another one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well first thing you can do is fill our the top row by placing your x value of your point into the f(x) so find f(2) for 1.9 1.99 1.999 2 2.1 ,etc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait dont we just put the top row of numbers into the csc(x) for example csc(1.9)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yes sorry xD the point is given to help when we get a tagent line equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i got that done now we need the tang line

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea we do so before we go on, do you know perhaps how we can get one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

think of what a derivative is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

take the first derivative of the f(x)=csc x?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes! which ,if figure correctly, gives us which part of a linear equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm the slope?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep! so take the 1st derv of csc x (that I do not know off top my head so :P)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

−cot(x)⋅csc(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

of course it needs to be a complicated one like cscx but wht ever haha we can still do it! Now what do you suppose we do next with f'(x) = -cot(x)csc(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Since we need a actual eveluated value for a slope.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

umm put it in the y=mx+b format?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope not quite yet, we need to find a m value first from this derivative. We would do this f'(2) since they gave us 2 as the x value in our given point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then evauluate for the values given @jziggy we are working on this :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so calculate what f'(2) equals (-cot(2)csc(2))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

working on it :P

OpenStudy (jziggy):

Looks like you've got this one so i'll go take a look at the first problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sounds good!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here i got one for ya i solved that one already

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jziggy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(−cot(2)csc(2)) « » = 0.50330897

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so that is the slope at that particular point so now we use ur y = mx +b equation :P and we gotta find b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

by plugging in (2, csc2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so y=0.5033x+b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeap y would be csc 2 and the x is 2 again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

solve for b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so csc(2)=0.5033(2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeap and do csc(2) - .5033(2) = b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.09313227

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so y=0.5033x+0.0931

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now ur tangent line equation (as ugly as it is) is ur T(x) so now do same thing again T(1.9) T(1.99) etc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

grrr lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and hopefully that is all good, havent done a tangent line problem in while especially one to that degree :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ill check it by graphing when im done :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I would do that for you but i seem to have left my calc at school so

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Anyways I must go anything else you have jziggy will have to help!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dam i think we got off by 0.0001 but whatever :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you graph it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that what u mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well the values at 2 for T(x) is different from csc x by 0.0001

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol that isnt so much only 1/10000 difference

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah it will be fine

OpenStudy (jziggy):

They will be different, the tangent line would be just an estimation of it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i probably rounded wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea if you used more didgits for the slope value liek we found or y-intercept or even the csc(2) for the y in y=mx + b might change it

OpenStudy (jziggy):

ooh wait at 2 nvm ignore that :D

OpenStudy (jziggy):

but yeah, with error that small it's most likely rounding error

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i checked it its right!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

rounding can change answer by that much, it isnt significant tho as we said! :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok next problem im putting up

OpenStudy (jziggy):

Alright, i think i've got your other problem solved as well you ready?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok good luck jziggy im out! :P

OpenStudy (jziggy):

Yay for trig equations.... lol f(x) = 2sec(x) + tan(x) f'(x) = 2sec(x)tan(x) + sec^2(x) Set this equal to zero to get the critical numbers 2sec(x)tan(x) + sec^2(x) = 0 You can easily factor out sec(x) to get sec(x)(2tan(x) + sec(x)) = 0 which gives us 2 equations sec(x) = 0 which isn't possible since sec(x) is never equal to zero 2tan(x) + sec(x) = 0 by converting to sines and cosines we get (2sin(x))/cos(x) + 1/cos(x) = 0 (2sin(x) + 1)/cos(x) since only the numerator matters for finding zeroes we now have 2sin(x) + 1 = 0 2sin(x) = -1 sin(x) = -1/2 Solve for x to get that our critical numbers are 7pi/6 and 11pi/6.

OpenStudy (jziggy):

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