In the TV show "Breaking Bad" the characters attempt to use HF acid to dissolve guns (among other things). Here we consider instead dissolving guns (which we will assume are pure iron) with sulfuric acid. Complete the balanced reaction for reacting iron in dilute sulfuric acid to form aqueous FeSO4. Do not worry about formatting subscripts (i.e. O2 to represent diatomic oxygen gas is fine). Fe + H2SO4 → FeSO4 + __H2(g)___
How many liters of 1 molar sulfuric acid would be required to dissolve 1 kg of iron? Assume the reaction from the previous part goes to completion. The molecular mass of Fe is 55.85 g/mol. ANSWER: ??????????????????????? It is apparent that they must use an outside source of electrical power to drive the dissolution of the iron. They use a small current so that the dissolution proceeds with the minimum voltage required. Assume standard values for the electrochemical potentials. How much electrical energy supplied this way is thus required to dissolve an additional 1 kg of iron? Give your answer in kJ. ANSWER: ???????????????????????????? The characters realize that their hideout has been discovered by the police and they still have a last handgun that weighs 0.25 kg to dissolve. The cops will get there in an hour, so they have to speed up the reaction, by driving it at a higher current. What is the minimum total voltage in volts they'll need to drive the reaction at to get rid of the gun in time? Consider excess potential because of activation losses only and the exchange current I0 to be 1 A for the reaction over the surface of the entire tank (not a current density). α is 0.5 and everything is being done at room temperature. Assume standard electrochemical potentials. ANSWER: ???????????????????????????
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@wio
1st question: 17.9
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@dan815
For the second, use: \(Fe^{2+} + 2 e^- \rightarrow Fe\) \(E_{red}\)= -0.44 V standard potentials are at 1M of 1 L, so 1 mol, so: so find moles of Fe (equivalent to 1kg), then multiply by the oxidation potential (+0.44V). For the 3rd: i'm not sure what \(\alpha\) is, do you know what equation you're supposed to use?
@aaronq can u solve it
nope. you should do this yourself, we're here to help not do it for you.
i got the calculations but i dont got the right one
post what you've done then, we'll check it
@aaronq dont think calculate dcorrectly....
.44 x 1000 x 33
i dont think that is right
units?
if i look at yours it doesn't work but i used two of what u listed but the other one is g
Fe molecular weight is 55.85
can you lay out wher to plug in? the equation?
it should be \(0.44 ~V/mol*n_{Fe}\) so \(\dfrac{0.44 V/mol*1000g}{55.85 g/mol)}\)
7.878245299910474485228290062667860340197
is that what u listed?
i dont thin it is correct
@aaronq doesn't look right
then you need to find the energy using: V = E/ Q Q = electron = 1.60217657 × 10^-19 coulombs
so use .44?
electron x .44?
use the value you got after
7.878
so the long answer divided by eletron?
no, you're finding E, so E=V*Q
if u multiply em you get: 0.000000000000000001262234003222918531781557743957027752909586258429
is that what you got?
@aaronq did we get the same answer?
hm its a very small number.. but it looks right.
let me double check
is that in KJ?
no that would be in J
conver tto KJ
times 1000?
divide
if you divide it it become: 0.00000000000000000000126223400322291853178155774395702775291
i think it became smaller....
yeah it gets smaller when you go from a smaller unit to a larger unit
but both answer are wrong....
did you try to calculate it yourself?
to get KJ in the end
the first one is simple stoichiometry: Fe + H2SO4 → FeSO4 + __H2(g)__ 1 kg of Fe to moles moles of Fe = moles of H2SO4 L of solution= moles of H2SO4/Molarity
i didnt convert Fe to KG.....
omg.....
you're supposed to use it in grams, because the molar mass is in grams per mole
can you map out the equation with the numbers in a better way?
even your setup we get wrong answer
im gona rage quit lol
moles of iron= 1000g/55.845g/mol \(L_{H_2SO_4}=\dfrac{\dfrac{1000g}{55.845g/mol}}{1~ mol/L}\)
so the answer the previous person gave was right.
wrong.....it says
maybe gotta convert to one decimal format
i dont know anymore
try 18 L
for the answer or for the number to calucaulte?
the answer, just rounded up
wrong
i dont kthink u should round it...
needs a raw answer in kJ
for the first question? it's asking for liters
the second question
someone already gave the first answer " 1st question: 17.9 "
if you read above your post someone answered it already we need the second and third answers
@aaronq we need second and third but you said u dont know third one so we do the second one
i know that. you said it was wrong, so i was checking it
jus raw answer is good enough no round
lol thats not what you said, but whatever.
we just need second question answer
hm it says "an additional kg of iron".. so maybe multiply that number by 2, because we only did it for 1 kg
ok what did u get then?
im not doing the calculations
im already lost...i lost all my numbers
i rage quitted my calculator
go back up, they're somewhere on the page
ok so give me the numebr to calucator x 2
which number do i multiply by 2
the one we found earlier
ill caulaate it jus give me the number
its up in this page, look for it
0.00000000000000000000252446800644583706356311548791405550582 answer is this? can u check ur answer too?i already multipolied it
OMG WRONG!!!!
I RAGE QUIT OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
relax man
GONA CUT OF MY HAIR NOW ALL OF IT!
lol
i like few numbers but u give me too many numbers and that has so many zeros i cant handle it
what answer did you get jus post it
need to system check it if it works
2.5*10^-21
wrong
its over....game over man
all the answer give X which is wrong
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