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OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

FANNING for good HELP!!!! Anyone that knows how to do this briefly, not in a mood for super-long, retarded formulas.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I asked this a number of times, I know, but \[f(x)=x^3-x+7\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Or perhaps there is no brief way, other than a huge retarded theorem with many square roots that are inside square roots, and etc.. (forgot what it's called)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Yes, I found the easier way! It's called “logging out”

OpenStudy (zarkon):

All you did was write down a function. You have not actually asked a question. What do you want done with that function?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Find all it's zeros. (Once the zeros are found, I'll be probably able to graph it on my own)

OpenStudy (primeralph):

The single formula to solve something like that is "super-long-retarded".

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

yep

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

thank the italians and be glad there is not a ^4

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

if you can "guess a solution" there is a much easier way

OpenStudy (shamil98):

f(x) = x^3 + 0x^2 - x + 7 use synthetic division and input numbers too see the zeroes.. use descarte's rule of signs to figure out how many roots there are

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

you need a solution first @shamil98

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

google Tartaglia and follow his algorythm

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

its very easy

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

gets a little lame with x^4.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

super-long-root :D

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

http://web.mit.edu/10.213/www/extra/solvecubic.pdf

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

OK, sorry I got disconnected, due to OS and additionally the temperature where the router was kept, so I had to fix all that. I really don't need the answer as much as the ability to do it on my own.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Loser66, how can you explain ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

oh, I see

OpenStudy (primeralph):

Has to cross the axis somewhere.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

GO on,

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

intermediate value theorem is applied because the function is continuous

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I can use approximation, right? But I am never going to get an exact answer without the world most retarded formula.

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

I dont think you are going to guess this root, I think the point is to use the Italians method

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

dudes its uber easy

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

you would have been done 5 times over by now if you would jsut do it

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Italian method? How

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

i posted you the link

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

http://web.mit.edu/10.213/www/extra/solvecubic.pdf

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Ok, can I try to do it now?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

you are asking for an easy way to do something that some of the greatest minds in the world have been working on for thousands of years....

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

100 of years? I doubt that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

!000 (typo)

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

if anyone is bored you should read the history behind the italians method.

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

um for sure 1000s of years

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

google:)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Google will tell you yes and will tell you no.

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

there are solutions to cubics on tablets from china that are thousands of years old

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

ok read a book then

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

the italians figured out the algorithm in the 1600s I think, and there was a big feud and lies and back stabbing and .... its a crazy story

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

you can do two things 1) guess a root and then use division to find the other 2) use the algorithm

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Why are suddenly talking about how long ago were the cubic functions, that just is irrelevent here (sorry for points that out). Also using Iteration, it's V=0, b/c C=0

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

we are talking about it because I told you that you are trying to find a way to do something that people have been working on for 1000s of years, you then said that is not true. I told you that you are wrong.....its all right there man^^^^

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

again, you would have been done a long long long time ago

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I will re-post this again, CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! got NO HELP what so ever!!!

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

omg dude? we have told you many times how to do it, keep reposting you will keep getting the same answer...... you want magic. do the work man. how did you get that 99 lol

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

if there was an easy way, why would the algorithm even exist.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you won't get far with such attitude. don't expect easy answers for every problem!

OpenStudy (zarkon):

use Vieta's substitution

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

zzr0ck3r, trying to sound smart ? bad attempt! You weren't helping, you were uselessly debating how long ago was this math... How I got the 99? I guess by helping and being nice to people that need help just the way I do. ocelot, I was verifying if there is an easy way, and it is not that I wouldn't do it the hard way, except the easier way would be better. Also, most of the problems can be solved in a relevantly easy way. Zarkon, Primeralph and shamil98, sorry for this notification.

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