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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

Teach me the simplest differential equations (second order)

OpenStudy (shamil98):

You know what an auxillary equation and general solution is right?

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

Yes, but I don't know how to convert from auxiliary equations to general solution

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

I have a few nice books if you want

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

@zzr0ck3r no thanks

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Okay, the general solution when you have two roots (r1 and r2) it is : \[y = c_1e^{r_1x} + c_2 e^{r_2x}\]

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Let's say you have y'' + 5y' + 6y = 0 Convert it to an auxillary equation and find the roots.

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

aight gn all, have fun

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

r^2+5r+6=0, (r+2)(r+3)=0, r=-2 or r=-3, \(\Large y=ae^{-2x}+be^{-3x}\) Am I correct?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Yes.

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

Thanks, that's all?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

No, there are two other types of the general solutions

OpenStudy (shamil98):

When you have only one root like y'' + 4y' + 4y = 0 r = -2 The formula is: \[y = c_1e^{r_1x} + c_2xe^{r_1x}\]

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

I see

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Now the other formula is for when you have complex roots.. \[y = e^{\alpha x}(\cos \beta x + \sin \beta x)\] where alpha = -b/2a and \[\beta = \frac{ \sqrt{4ac-b^2} }{ 2a }\]

OpenStudy (shamil98):

I mean* \[y = e^{\alpha x} (c_1\cos \beta x + c_2 \sin \beta x)\] forgot the constants ;p

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

I see

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Now, this is just evaluating the general solution.. In the chapter where you do face second-order diff equations you also have to solve initial value problems and boundary value problems.

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

you mean when the root is \(a\pm bi\), alpha is a and beta is b, am i correct

OpenStudy (shamil98):

yeah when the root is that

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

Can you give me a problem? :)

OpenStudy (shamil98):

yes alpha is a , and beta is b.

OpenStudy (shamil98):

sure: \[y'' - 6y' + 8y = 0\]

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

r^2-6r+8=0, (r-2)(r-4)=0, r=2 or r=4 \[\large y=ae^{2x}+be^{4x}\] am i correct

OpenStudy (shamil98):

yep

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Alright try this one: 4y'' + y' = 0

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

4r^2+1=0, r^2=-0.25, r=±0.5i \[\large y=a\cos0.5x+b\sin0.5x\] Am I correct

OpenStudy (shamil98):

That's a y' not y remember y'' = r^2 , y' = r , y = 1

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

oh sorry i misred it

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

4r^2+r=0, r(r+4)=0, r=0 or r=-4 \[\large y=a+be^{-4x}\] am i correct?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

but if it were 4y'' + y = 0 you would be correct

OpenStudy (shamil98):

and yes that is correct

OpenStudy (shamil98):

good job!

OpenStudy (shamil98):

want to try an initial-value problem?

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

thanks

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

yes plz

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Try: 4y'' - 4y' + y = 0 where y(0) = 1 and y'(0) = -1.5

OpenStudy (shamil98):

Basically in an initial value problem you find the constants after you get the general solution. you find the constants from evaluating.. in this case you evaluate the general solution at y(0) = 1 and the derivative of it at y'(0) = -1.5

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

4r^2-4r+1=0, (2r-1)^2=0, r=0.5 \[\large y=ae^{0.5x}+bxe^{0.5x}\] y(0)=1, a=1 y'=0.5ae^(0.5x)+be^(0.5x)+0.5bxe^(0.5x) y'(0)=1, 0.5a+b=1 b=0.5 \[\large\therefore y=e^{0.5x}+0.5xe^{0.5x}\] Am I correct

OpenStudy (shamil98):

you got the first constant right the second one is wrong

OpenStudy (shamil98):

\[y'(x) = (1/2)e^{1/2x} + c_2 (e^{x/2} +1/2xe^{1/2})\] y'(0) = -1.5 not 1

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

oh careless me

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

y'(0)=-1.5 0.5a+b=-1.5 b=-2 \[\large\therefore y=e^{0.5x}-2xe^{0.5x}\] Am i correct?

OpenStudy (shamil98):

yes, you are right now

OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):

Wow thanks a lot :D Wish I could give you a million medals... :)

OpenStudy (shamil98):

lol, no problem :P

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