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OpenStudy (anonymous):

simplify each rational expression state any restrictions on the variable.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 4x^2-2x }{ x^2+5x+4} \div \frac{ 2x }{ x^2+2x+1 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

help @whpalmer4

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Factor everything in sight before you do the division, and you'll get some significant simplification. Then proceed as always...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok im not great at factoring can you help me with that part

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Okay, can you spot any common factors in \[4x^2-2x\]?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

um 2 can go into 4 and x can go into x^2

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

so, factored, that would be?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

um i dont know ....... would it be (2+x)(2x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope that was not it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i think i got it (2)(2x-x)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\[4x^2-2x = 2(2x^2-x) = 2x(2x-1)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok how do u \[x^2+5x+4\]

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Okay, remember when multiply two binomials\[(x+a)(x+b) = x*x+a*x+b*x + a*b\]\[=x^2+(a+b)x + ab\] \[x^2+5x+4\]Those match up if \[a+b=5\]\[a*b=5\]Can you think of two numbers for which that is true?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

sorry, that last line should be \[a*b=4\]!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a=2 b=2 which is 4

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

does 2+2 =5 in your world? :-)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it should

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

well, maybe it should, but it doesn't. how about 1 and 4? 1*4 = 4 1+4 = 5 \[(x+1)(x+4) = x*x + 1*x + 4*x + 1*4 = x^2 + 5x + 4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so the new equation will look like \[\frac{ 2x(2x-1) }{ (x+1)(x+4) } \div \frac{ 2x }{ (x+1)(x+1) }\]

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

right. and that becomes a multiplication with the \(2x/(x+1)^2\) inverted: \[\frac{2x(2x-1)}{(x+1)(x+4)}*\frac{(x+1)(x+1)}{2x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

simplified it is \[\frac{ 2x-1 }{ (x+4)(x+1) }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i fixed it

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

uh, no, not quite... \[\frac{\cancel{2x}(2x-1)}{\cancel{(x+1)}(x+4)}*\frac{(x+1)\cancel{(x+1)}}{\cancel{2x}}=\frac{(2x-1)(x+1)}{(x+4)} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to find the restrictions on the variable. dont we need to find the zeros?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Yes, what will make the denominator = 0?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=-4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are the other ones x=-4, x=-1, x=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not 1 but 1/2

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

yes, x=-4 is the restriction on the variable — \(x\ne-4\)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

the others are zeros, x=-4 is a pole

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what??? i thought the restriction are the zeros

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

No, zeros are where the thing equals 0. There's nothing wrong with that! Restrictions are where you are dividing by 0, which isn't allowed.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i think i get it but when i use -1 it comes up on the bottom as 0. so it that also a restriction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so the restrictions are x=-1 & x=-4

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

ah, yes, because the original has (x+1) on the bottom, so that's a restriction even though it doesn't appear in the simplified fraction

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

sorry to leave you mid-problem, but I have to go!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so i have answer thank you for you time do you think you can help again if i post a new question?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

go ahead and post, tag me, I'll have a look when I'm able. Hopefully someone else can help you before I'm back.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks again

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

you're welcome.

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