simplify each rational expression state any restrictions on the variable.
\[\frac{ 4x^2-2x }{ x^2+5x+4} \div \frac{ 2x }{ x^2+2x+1 }\]
help @whpalmer4
Factor everything in sight before you do the division, and you'll get some significant simplification. Then proceed as always...
ok im not great at factoring can you help me with that part
Okay, can you spot any common factors in \[4x^2-2x\]?
um 2 can go into 4 and x can go into x^2
so, factored, that would be?
um i dont know ....... would it be (2+x)(2x)
nope that was not it
ok i think i got it (2)(2x-x)
\[4x^2-2x = 2(2x^2-x) = 2x(2x-1)\]
ok how do u \[x^2+5x+4\]
Okay, remember when multiply two binomials\[(x+a)(x+b) = x*x+a*x+b*x + a*b\]\[=x^2+(a+b)x + ab\] \[x^2+5x+4\]Those match up if \[a+b=5\]\[a*b=5\]Can you think of two numbers for which that is true?
sorry, that last line should be \[a*b=4\]!!!
a=2 b=2 which is 4
does 2+2 =5 in your world? :-)
yes it should
well, maybe it should, but it doesn't. how about 1 and 4? 1*4 = 4 1+4 = 5 \[(x+1)(x+4) = x*x + 1*x + 4*x + 1*4 = x^2 + 5x + 4\]
ok so the new equation will look like \[\frac{ 2x(2x-1) }{ (x+1)(x+4) } \div \frac{ 2x }{ (x+1)(x+1) }\]
right. and that becomes a multiplication with the \(2x/(x+1)^2\) inverted: \[\frac{2x(2x-1)}{(x+1)(x+4)}*\frac{(x+1)(x+1)}{2x}\]
simplified it is \[\frac{ 2x-1 }{ (x+4)(x+1) }\]
i fixed it
uh, no, not quite... \[\frac{\cancel{2x}(2x-1)}{\cancel{(x+1)}(x+4)}*\frac{(x+1)\cancel{(x+1)}}{\cancel{2x}}=\frac{(2x-1)(x+1)}{(x+4)} \]
to find the restrictions on the variable. dont we need to find the zeros?
Yes, what will make the denominator = 0?
x=-4
right??
are the other ones x=-4, x=-1, x=1
not 1 but 1/2
yes, x=-4 is the restriction on the variable — \(x\ne-4\)
the others are zeros, x=-4 is a pole
what??? i thought the restriction are the zeros
No, zeros are where the thing equals 0. There's nothing wrong with that! Restrictions are where you are dividing by 0, which isn't allowed.
ok i think i get it but when i use -1 it comes up on the bottom as 0. so it that also a restriction
ok so the restrictions are x=-1 & x=-4
ah, yes, because the original has (x+1) on the bottom, so that's a restriction even though it doesn't appear in the simplified fraction
sorry to leave you mid-problem, but I have to go!
ok so i have answer thank you for you time do you think you can help again if i post a new question?
go ahead and post, tag me, I'll have a look when I'm able. Hopefully someone else can help you before I'm back.
ok thanks again
you're welcome.
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