for the given function, determine consecutive values of x between which each real zero is located f(x)= -19x^4-3x^3-12x^2+20x+25 just explain how to get the problem :)
The idea here is that on one side of the zero, f(a) will be positive, and on the other, f(b) will be negative. As this function is continuous, that means there must be a value of x somewhere between a and b where f(x) = 0. Pick a couple of integer values of x between -3 and 3 and evaluate that function.You should be able to figure out where those zeros must be, approximately.
The problem is that I don't understand what a zero means? could you explain
A zero is a spot where the function equals...wait for it....drum roll please...0 :-)
zeros are also called roots.
lol so once I find zeros in the functions what do I do?
Well, finding the zeros is not necessarily all that easy. Could you solve \[-19x^4-3x^3-12x^2+20x+25 = 0\]
Umm no but I can plug the different numbers in to see if it equals zero if that's what you mean by solving
Often there isn't an exact solution, and it has to be found numerically. One of the methods used is essentially picking a pair of points, evaluating the function at each of them, deciding if it must have a zero between (because one side is positive and one is negative), and sashaying up and down the x-axis looking for such spots. Now, if you actually try evaluating this function, you'll discover that as you leave the vicinity of -2 < x < 2 the value of the function gets really, really big, so the roots are going to be in that range.
In case you think I'm kidding about it getting really big, check out the graph I've attached.
so how would I put that in answer form The answer choices are a. there are zeros between x=1 and x=2, x-0 and x=1 b. there are zeros between x=2 and x=3, x=1 and x=0, x=-1 and x=-2, x=-2 and x=-3 c. x=0 and x=1 d. there is a zero between x=0 and x=-1
Oh, that makes it much easier. You've got a bunch of values of x to plug in. If the sign of the function changes between x=1 and x=2, that means there's a zero between x = 1 and x = 2. Make yourself a table showing the sign of the value of the function at each of the values of x listed in the answer possibilities, and then work out where the zeros must be. It's not that hard, you just have to evaluate the polynomial successfully.
oh ok so I just plug the values in too see if there is a sign change consecutively in the polynomial
Looking at a closeup of the graph, I think you maybe didn't copy the answers quite correctly, but that doesn't matter so long as you look at the right ones when you make your choice.
Do you know Descartes' Rule of Signs? That will allow you to figure out how many real roots there are for this equation.
Sure do and I only see one sign change in the original polynomial
so that means 1 real positive root. how about negative roots (sign changes in f(-x))
easy way to construct f(-x) is just to flip the signs on the odd power roots.
ok I only see one on that to
okay, so 1 real positive, 1 real negative, how many roots does this polynomial have in total?
2
nope. what's the highest power of x here?
oh sorry lol 4
right, so 1 real positive, 1 real negative, 2 complex (in a conjugate pair)
oh so once I have 1 neg and 1 pos I just put the other two in conjugate pairs
that probably eliminates some answer choices right there. anyhow, you should go through the exercise of figuring out the value of polynomial at each of those points. if you want, I can check your values for you
well, the other two don't matter for this problem — they asked only for real roots/zeros
oh ok
I have another similar problem if you want me to do it
finish this one first, I have to cook dinner, and then I'll be back.
ok thanx for the help
if you add 0 to f(x) then the outcome will become: 25 if you add 1 to f(x0 then the outcome will become: 11 if you add 2 to f(x) then the outcome is -311 if you add 3 to f(x) you get -1954
good, now do the negative values as well...
ok
for -1 it will be -23 for -2 it will be -343 for -3 it will be -1601
very good. so here they are in a convenient table: \[\begin{array}{cc} \text{x} & \text{y}\\-3 & -1601 \\ -2 & -343 \\ -1 & -23 \\ 0 & 25 \\ 1 & 11 \\ 2 & -311 \\ 3 & -1643 \\ \end{array}\] Between which consecutive values of \(x\) does \(y\) change sign?
is it 2 times
Yes, but I need to know where it changes. x=-3 y negative x=-2 y negative x=-1 y negative x=0 y positive HELLO what does that imply about the path of the curve between x = -1 and x = 0?
oh ok its saying that that's a real zero right because the sign changes. And that's why there are 4 numbers
Okay, so there's a zero between x = -1 and x = 0. Not sure exactly where, but we could repeat this process with the values of x spaced closer together, right? Now continuing on through the table, where is the next place where the sign of the y values changes?
between x=1 and x=2
OMG I get it now
yep, I think you do :-)
Here's a zoomed in version of the graph...
YAY I'm happy now but do you think you could help me with one more question
The solutions of the equation are pretty interesting :-)
that looks really confusing but I'm only in algebra 2 sooooo....
No, your instincts are good :-)
the numeric versions are: {{x -> -0.268551 - 1.2515 I}, {x -> -0.268551 + 1.2515 I}, {x -> -0.7264}, {x -> 1.10561}}
ok then so do you think you could help me with a whole new problem or are you tired
1 positive real root at about 1.10561, 1 negative real root at -0.7264, and the two complex roots off in never-never land.
Yes, why don't you post as a fresh problem and tag me, I'll be back in about 3 minutes
ok
estimate the x-coordinates at which the relative maxima and relative minima occur for the function. f(x)= 7x^3-2x^2+3 The answers are a. the relative maximum is at x=0, and the relative minimum is at x=0.19 b. the relative maximum is at x=1, and the relative minimum is at x=0.19 c. the relative maximum is at x=0, and the relative minimum is at x=-0.19 d. the relative maximum is at x=1, and the relative minimum is at x=-0.19
okay, here I think you just evaluate the function at x = 0, x = 1, x = 0.19, x = -0.19 and draw your conclusions
so im going to plug it in the function
yeah.
but if I plug in 0 I will get 3 has an answer
how will that help me find the min or max
Okay. You're going to find the values at x = -0.19, x = 0, x = 0.19, x = 1 and the compare the y values. the highest one will be a relative maximum, right? and the lowest one will be a relative minimum.
it's too simple, you're overthinking it :-)
ok so since I got 3 that's going to be a value on 0
yes, that's the value at x=0. \[\begin{array}{l|l|l} & \text{x} & \text{y} \\ \hline & -0.19 & 2.87979 \\ & 0 & 3 \\ & 0.19 & 2.97581 \\ & 1 & 8 \\ \end{array}\]
well from here it seems like the answers are going too be d. 1 and -0.19 :) I fully comprehend now
vertical lines are at \(x=\pm 0.19\)
that's an odd degree polynomial and it only has 1 real zero
Yep. Complex conjugate roots at \(0.439638\pm0.542339i\)
uhmmmm and I know im going to make an A on my test tomorrow thanx for your help
Good luck with the exam — let me know how you do!
ok and thanx again gn
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