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OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

Find the product of all values of "x" that satisfy the equation:-

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

\[\huge \bf x^{x^2-25}=1\]

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

@ganeshie8

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

@UnkleRhaukus

OpenStudy (abmon98):

5 and -5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My my, we have a problem :D Also, @Abmon98 we're kind of asked for the product of all the solutions to the equation, so...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So the answer is... 25 HAHA ^.^

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

why its 25,not -25

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Because I said so, and I'm awesome ^.^

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

please tell me the reason

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Silly mayankdevnami, did you notice that 1 and -1 are solutions too? ^.^

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

take log both sides may be..

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

yeah! you are right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\Huge f(x) ^{g(x)}=1\] It'd work with g(x) = 0 and f(x) not zero OR f(x) = 1 and g(x) whatever.

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

thnx... @PeterPan

OpenStudy (anonymous):

aw yea :D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

brilliant !

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

and what about your method. @ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

forget it, its a dumb method

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

please tell

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ive told already, take log both sides..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

(x^2-25) log x = 0 x = +- 5 x = +-1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

anyways, log cant digest negative values as input... so u need to be bit careful... before concluding..

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

correct man

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

thnx....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just noticed that \[\Huge f(x) ^{g(x)}=1\] is easily verifiable as per @ganeshie8 :3 \[\huge g(x) \log f(x) =0\]\[\huge\implies g(x) = 0 \qquad or\qquad f(x) = 1\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ahh yes.. but it is not giving us -1 as solution.... idk how it got disappeared :o

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, let's change it a bit :) \[\Huge f(x) ^{g(x)}=1\] means: f(x) not zero and g(x) = 0 OR f(x) = 1 and g(x) whatever OR f(x) = -1 and g(x) = 0(mod 2) better?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ur method is okay im talking about taking log..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

when we take log, x = -1 solution is getting dropped off..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

(x^2-25) log x = 0 x = +- 5 x = + 1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

this gives oly 3 solutions, but clearly -1 is also a solution... but putting -1 inside log is illegal uhmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 I got it :D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

tell me lol ive been trying and almost giving up xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(x^2 - 25\) is either an even integer or it is not an even integer. Suppose it is not an even integer. Then \[\Huge x ^{x^2-25}=1\] only has x=1 for its solution. Suppose it IS an even integer. Then... \[\Huge x ^{x^2-25}=\color{blue}{|x|^{x^2-25}}=1\] implying \[\huge (x^2-25)\log|x|=0\] and work from there, this DOES give x=-1 as a solution ^.^

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

beautiful !!!!! makes perfect sense now ty lol xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, wait, change again...My previous attempt is awkward. Start from here. \[\Large (x^2-25)\log(x)=0\] Multiply 2 to both sides. \[\Large \color{green}2(x^2-25)\log(x)=\color{green}2\times 0\]\[\Large(x^2-25)\log(x^2)=0\] \[\Large \implies x^2-25 = 0 \qquad or \qquad x^2 = 1\] Much eleganter ^.^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey @ganeshie8 that thing up there looks way better than my previous two-case method, which was a bit iffy, now that I think about it XD

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yupp this looks elegant and simpler :D

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[\begin{align} x^{x^2-25}&=1\\ \log_x|x^{x^2-25}|&=\log_x|1|\\ (x^2-25)\log_x|x|&=0\\ &&x^2-25&=0&\text{or}&&\log_x|x|&=0\\ &&x^2&=25&&&x^{\log_x|x|}&=x^0\\ &&x&=\pm\sqrt{25}&&&|x|&=1\\ &&x&=\pm5&&&x&=\pm1 \end{align}\] \[x_{1,2,3,4}=\pm1,\pm5\] \[x_1x_2x_3x_4=(1)(-1)(5)(-5)=25\]

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