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OpenStudy (anonymous):

algebra 2 question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (mathmale):

How are you, Mr. Plohrr? Might help to sketch some possibilities where a second order equation and a first order equation are involved. A second order equation might look like this: y=3x^2 -5x +1, whereas a first-order equation like: y=-2x + 3. With that in mind, what do you think the question is asking us?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

"Mr. Plohrr" is, of course, an effort to be witty; I'm not that formal. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

give them a situation where one is right and one is wrong, specific equations

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Are you good at sketching simple graphs quickly? If so, graph y=x^2 and y=-1 on the same set of coordinate axes. Do the 2 graphs intersect?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no and they never will

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Right. So this is a case of "no solution." Now suppose you cross out your graph of y=-1 and replace it with a graph of y=0. What could you conclude, based upon your graph of the parabola and the line y=0?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they intersect at one point

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Cool. Now suppose you cross out your graph of y=0 and replace it with a graph of y=2. Conclusion(s)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

intersection at 2 pts

OpenStudy (mathmale):

So now we've explored three different possibilities. Suppose your 2nd order eq'n is y=x^2, as before, and your str. line (first order equation ) is y=2 (as before). Is it possible for you to replace the y in your y=x^2 with y=2? If so, can the resulting eq'n be solved for x?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Look: y = x^2. But the other equation is y=2. Substituting, y = 2 = x^2. can that be solved for x?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm yes it can

OpenStudy (mathmale):

And how many solutions will there be? I like to teach by asking questions wherever possible. I don't mean to stretch this out forever, but do think it will benefit you in the long run to experiment with guidance, as you and I have been doing.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

one solution

OpenStudy (mathmale):

But if x^2 = 2, and we take the sqrt of both sides, we end up with x = plus or minus Sqrt(2). Can you agree with that? Every 2nd order equation has 2 roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah so 2 solutions

OpenStudy (mathmale):

So, in summary, Peter, it's possible that the solution of a system involving one quadratic (2nd order) equation and one linear (first order) equation can include two points; there are 2 solutions. But if we abandon y=2 and revert to y=0, we'd have how many solutions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Suppose y=0 and we substitute that into y=x^2. What would the resulting equation look like, and would it have a sol'n? If so, what would the sol'n be?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Glad you caught that. The answer is 1 (not 0). OK so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Everything OK with you? I sense your attention is partially elsewhere this afternoon. Now suppose y=-2. How many solutions will this system have? that is, the system y=-2 and y=x^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no im just disappointed bc i lost in the finals of my tournament, but i have to get this done

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0 solutions

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I'm extremely sorry to hear that. Hope it's not the end of the season, and that you and your team will have additional chances to come out on top.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Right. 0 solutions. so now y ou've seen it all. Depending on whether or not the 2nd order equation's graph and the graph of the line intersect, this system may have 0, 1 or 2 solutions. That's basically all you need to answer this question. Are you OK with this? Or have3 more questions about this probelm?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i do have more but not on this topic

OpenStudy (mathmale):

You're welcome! Are you up to working on problems from some other topic?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

of course :)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Good! Mind posting a new problem separately?

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