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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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Parth (parthkohli):

Felix, use the quadratic formula.

Parth (parthkohli):

Hmm, you just ask Felix to use the quadratic formula. Do you know what the discriminant is?

Parth (parthkohli):

I respect that. First of all, do you know what the discriminant is?

Parth (parthkohli):

As in... the meaning of discriminant.

Parth (parthkohli):

Hmm, Have you heard of the quadratic formula?

Parth (parthkohli):

I'm sorry, back.

Parth (parthkohli):

\[x = \dfrac{-b \pm \sqrt{\color{blue}{b^2 - 4ac}}}{2a}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is the quadratic formula

Parth (parthkohli):

The above is the quadratic formula. But one part of it is really important: the thing in the root, that is, \(\color{blue}{b^2 - 4ac}\). This quantity is known as the discriminant.

Parth (parthkohli):

Now, you know how roots work, right? You can't insert a negative in them, or you get jailed.

Parth (parthkohli):

So similarly, if you insert a negative in the root, you're not gonna get a real solution, would you? That is what we mean by a negative discriminant. If you have a negative \(b^2 - 4ac\) (or negative discriminant), you don't get to see real solutions.

Parth (parthkohli):

Are you getting it?

Parth (parthkohli):

Yup, it very much does! Another thing about the discriminant: if it is *zero*, what would the solutions be? Let's see how that goes in the quadratic formula.\[x =\dfrac{ -b \pm \sqrt{\color{blue}{0}}}{2a} = \dfrac{-b}{2a}\]Woot! Only one root.

Parth (parthkohli):

So, can you create an expression in the form \(ax^2 + bx + c\) where \(b^2 - 4ac\) is negative?

Parth (parthkohli):

Actually, we can come with random b's, a'c and c's which would make \(b^2 - 4ac\) negative. One way to do it is to make \(4ac\) ridiculously bigger than \(b^2\).

Parth (parthkohli):

Yuss! You got it!

Parth (parthkohli):

As the discriminant here is \((4)^2 - 4(2)(10) = 16 - 80 = -64\), this is good.

Parth (parthkohli):

Yes, the discriminant is -64, so it is negative.

Parth (parthkohli):

Did you make this expression up on your own? Because it is one of the greatest examples.

Parth (parthkohli):

OK, great job!

Parth (parthkohli):

You just use the straightforward quadratic formula here.

Parth (parthkohli):

Have you learned the concept of imaginary numbers?

Parth (parthkohli):

Hmm -- you don't really need to understand them too much. But you know what \(i\) is, don't you?

Parth (parthkohli):

You have\[2x^2+4x + 10 = 0\]so,\[x = \dfrac{-4 \pm \sqrt{16 - 80}}{4} = \dfrac{-4 \pm \sqrt{-64}}{4}\]

Parth (parthkohli):

Now, what is \(\sqrt{-64}\)?\[\sqrt{-64}\]\[= \sqrt{-1 \times 64} \]\[= \sqrt{-1} \times \sqrt{64}\]\[= i \times 8\]\[= 8i\]

Parth (parthkohli):

Thanks, but we've got things left to do. :)

Parth (parthkohli):

\[\dfrac{-4 \pm \sqrt{-64}}{4}\]\[= \dfrac{-4}{4} \pm\dfrac{8i}{4}\]\[= -1 \pm 2i\]

Parth (parthkohli):

And that, madam, is the end of all the struggles you have had with discriminants.

Parth (parthkohli):

Thank you for the acknowledgement!

Parth (parthkohli):

Great, I'll wait for ya!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The equation I came up with that has a negative discriminant is 2x^2 + 4x + 10. We find the negative discriminant by x = -4 ± sqrt 16 - 80 / 4 = -4 ± sqrt -64 / 4 Next solve the negative discriminant sqrt -64 = sqrt -1 * 64 = sqrt -1 * sqrt 64 = i * 8 = 8i Then continue solving the equation = -4 ± sqrt -64 / 4 = -4/4 ± 8i/4 = -1 ± 2i The solution to the equation is -1 ± 2i

Parth (parthkohli):

Instead of saying ``` We find the negative discriminant by ``` You should say ``` We find the solution of this equation with a negative discriminant by ```

Parth (parthkohli):

Nothing else! Good job.

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