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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Solve for n
4 = log(2^n -1)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[4 = \log(2^n-1)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
change it to exponential form
than it is a lot easier to solve
OpenStudy (anonymous):
explain please?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok logarithmic forms and exponential are interchange able i will show you
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[y=b^x, x=\log_b(y)\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
with the way you have your equation your b is equal to 10
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so your equation will be...?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so I could say, n = -1 (4)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[2^n-1=4^{10}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
try to solve what I gave you
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I forget logs, I'm not sure how to get the n out.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok the formula can be reduced to \[2^n=1048575\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
log of 1048575 = 2 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oops sorry i mad one mistake is 104857
OpenStudy (anonymous):
um not quite
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
log_2(n)=104857
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\log_2(n)=104857\]
\[\frac{ \log(n) }{ \log(2) }=104857\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
multiply both sides by log(2)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
are you still there?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry, I'm trying to understand :-\
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no problem it takes time
OpenStudy (anonymous):
when there is a base of a number that is not ten you can split them like how i did
OpenStudy (anonymous):
could you walk me through my problem?
\[80 = 20 \log (2^n - 1)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
this only works for logs not lns and sure
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
divide both sides by 20
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so first I divide by 20 and got what I said earlier..
\[4= \log(2^n - 1)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
good now change to exponential i put up the formula. It took me a while to memorize that too so dont worry
OpenStudy (anonymous):
now what is the base? 10?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
when a base is not written you automatically assume that it is 10
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I can't simplify it more first?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2^n-1=4^10
should be the formula
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no you have to change it to exponential
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you can't simplify more because everything on the other side is in a log
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so now I have to use log again, but this time base 2?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
but when that occurs you can use this formula where x is any number but 10
\[\log_b(y)=\frac{ \log(y) }{ \log(b) }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how are you so far
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you should have gotten
\[\log(n)=\log(2)(4^{10}-1)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oops plus 1
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\log(n)=315653.129763\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
now change back to exponential and you are done
OpenStudy (anonymous):
um r you good?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry, minor emergency.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh ok no problem
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
n = \[n= \frac{ \log(4+1) }{\log 2 }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I was doing something like that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but I think thats wrong too :-\
OpenStudy (anonymous):
n = 10^315652.5277 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that can't be right...