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OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

To win a lottery, 6 numbers are drawn at random from a pool of 50 numbers. Numbers cannot repeat. You have one lottery ticket. What is the probability you hold the winning ticket?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(1/50c6). If you have a scientific calculator there is probably a C button on it that stands for combinations. 50C6 will give us the number of ways you can pick 6 items out of a bunch of 50 where order doesn't matter. And putting that over 1 gives us the probability :).

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

im not sure which one i need to use permutation or combination they confuse me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Permutations are for when order matter and combinations are when it doesn't matter :). " http://www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations.html " is a great site for teaching it. With combinations it like I said earlier doesn't matter. So if I was counting the number of blue balls I pick out of a bag containing red and blue balls, it wouldn't matter the order of the balls I pick just the number. With permutations order DOES matter. So like a safe code, it does matter what order you put your code in. I can't describe it too well but that site will be able to :).

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

so with this one i would use permutation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Combinations :), does it matter if the 5 ball comes before the 6? All that matters in the case of a lottery is that the 6 numbers chosen appear on your card..

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

oh ok this is all so confusing right now

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

\[\frac{ 50! }{ 44!(6! }\] \[\frac{ 50*49*48*47*46*45 }{ 6*5*4*3*2*1}\]

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

\[\frac{ 11441304000 }{ 720 }\] =\[1589070\] your chance of wining is \[\frac{ 1 }{ 15890700 }\]

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

^^ i left off a zero

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

1589070 supposed to be 15890700

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's the answer I got :) If you can work it out without combinations and permutations that's great

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But if the exam board asks specifically for one or the other it might prove a bit of a hard time, so I'de give it one last try to wrap your head round Combs and perms and if that fails then just keep doing it like you just did :)!

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

yea imma work on the whole figuring out which one i need to use

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

u have 1 lottery ticket, there are a total of 50 numbers

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and 6 numbers are drawn at random

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

doesnt 1/15890700 look very less ?

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

what do you mean

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ur chances should be way higher than that tiny number

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if u draw the number oly one time itself, the chances of winning are 1/50

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

when u draw it 6 times, ur chances should go high

OpenStudy (anonymous):

They do say you are more likely to be hit by lightning then winning the next lottery :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Gane but you have to get all 6 correct, you are no longer looking for 1 correct number but 6 making your odds lower

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

that kinda just almost confused me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Think about it like this, if you have to only guess 1 number from a list of 1-50 the odds are simply 1/50, but now you have to guess 6 numbers correctly, you have guessed the first one correctly but now there another 5 to get correct. Making it a much harder task and therefore having a much lower probability

OpenStudy (highschoolmom2010):

that makes sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And then when you have to start thinking about all the different ways these 6 correct answers and 42 incorrect answers are aranged do the really small odds start making sense

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

this doesnt make sense to me yet, but ok :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im seeing it as "6 winning tickets in a pool of 50 tickets" you have one ticket wid u - so the chances should be high. i do see ur way of interpretation is different. but i find it hard to interpret in any other way... so.. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah, I see it as 1 ticket yet you have to get 6 correct answers on it instead of 6 tickets all with 1 correct answer on.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Mine is harder to initalliy visualise but it is how real lotteries work so that's why I did it based on that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Also question states "you have one ticket"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

xD

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

uhmm it says "numbers" not "digits" that part is throwing me off

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

A lottery ticket has one number, right ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I have one ticket, but the lottery company is giving prizes to 6 random tickets... so its okay i guess. for the record - i dint do phd in lottery companies ;p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YTzJOXQv1cE/UEphfhImnKI/AAAAAAAAEOI/CNFrRuC6IVc/s320/LottoCard.jpg - Have a look at that lottery card, you are given 50 numbers and have to cross out 6. If those 6 balls come up in the show you win.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wth was that lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

English national lottery ticket

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks u have more understanding on this topic :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

il go wid u xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Got my test on this subject next wednesday xD

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

u wil do super good im sure, i can see :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks :D.

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