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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Your cousin, who is in middle school, is learning about prime numbers and prime factorization for the first time, and is struggling with the concept. 1. Explain to your cousin, in a way that would make sense to a middle school student, what it means for a number to be prime. Use this to explain why 1 is not a prime number, and to explain what the first four prime numbers are. 2. Next, explain what it means to find the prime factorization of a number. Then demonstrate your idea of prime factorization by trying to write the numbers 2 through 20 as a product of any combination of the first four prime numbers

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Do you have any ideas? Can you tell me what a prime number is to start if you don't have any ideas?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand the first question i just don’t get the second one

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Ok, so can you please answer the first part for me then so I can get a sense of your understanding?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

prime numbers are the numbers that are bigger than 1 and cannot be divided evenly by any other number except 1 and itself

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 is not considered a prime because it has one factor

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

good, and why isn't 1 one of them? It's divisible by 1 and itself?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

good good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

prime numbers have two factors

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ex: the prime factors of 12 are 2x2x3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the first 4 prime factors are 2,3,5,7

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

wait

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you there?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

prime numbers have 2 factors? then your ex of 12. 12 is not prime. Type-o?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well my second question is about prime factorization

OpenStudy (anonymous):

prime factors are multiplied together to make the original number ex :12=2x2x3

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok, so conceptually close but not entirely, just a quick correction: A prime factorization breaks a number up into multiplication, but the numbers you are multiplying are only prime.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my question is writing the numbers 2 through 20 as a product of any combination of the 1st four prime numbers? i have no idea what this means

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

do you see the difference on the lead in? then your ex of 12 where you have 12=2^2*3 would make more sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so do i have to write numbers from 2 to 20 and break them up into multiplication?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like 8=2^3 9=3^2 and so on until 20?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

And as for your question, it's a concept you are missing, that is all. the prime factorization is not just 2 primes, it is actually \[n= p_{1}^{a_1}* p_{2}^{a_2}* p_{3}^{a_3}...\]

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

the p are your different primes, and the a are how many times they appear in your factorization.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

yes, you did the factorization for 8 and 9 correct, but what about2,3,4,5,6,7?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is the part i don’t understand?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok can you pin point where?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

After i explained what it means to find the prime factorization of a number i have to demonstrate my idea of prime factorization by trying to write the numbers 2 through 20 as a product of any combination of the first four prime numbers.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

yes i understand, but i need to know exactly where your confusion is

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

OH WAIT, I think I have a guess, here is an example 23 is prime right? so it's factorization is simply 23=23

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i understand that but is this question asking me to list the numbers from 2 to 20 and factor them to see if i get any combination of the first 4 prime numbers?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

well, let's start writing them 2=? 3=? 4=? 5=? 6=?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

it just wants you to list all of their prime factorizations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see. so 2=2, 3=3,4=2^2…and so on

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

from 2-20, using just the first for primes if possible

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

yea, the hiccup will come when you hit 11(you cannot use the first four primes only because 11 is prime)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

You will need to explain why that is

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

so what would the prime factorization for 16 be?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so why can’t 11, 17, 19 be factored into primes?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

What are 11, 17, and 19? They themselves are_______.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

16 is 2x2x2x2=2^4

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

yup good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(17,19) prime numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so they only have two factors?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

good, and what do you know about primes? What are the only numbers that divide them?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 and itself

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

good, so now is it possible to multiply any group of numbers and get a prime if that group does not contain the prime itself?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not all numbers cannot be written as a combination of the first 4 prime numbers so no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i also have to explain why some of these numbers cannot be factored into primes.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Well, yea, but basically what I'm getting at is that a prime decomp of a prime, is just that prime. Follow?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I left out a question by accidentYour cousin notices that some of the numbers cannot be written as a combination of the first four prime numbers. Explain why these numbers could not be factored into primes.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Well tell me, why can't 19 be written as a factorization of the first 4?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well because 2,3,5,7 are not factor of 19. 19 is its own prime factor

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

good, are there any others that are different?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes (11,13,17) if i go up to 30 (23 and 29)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Good good, now you can explain why, so I think my work here is done. You are fully capable of answering the question. :) good work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much :)

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