is 4y=5x+2 and 8x=3-10y perpendicular @jim_thompson5910
Well how do you determine whether two lines are perpendicular or not?
what does that mean exactly
when 2 lines are perpendicular is when they form a 90º angle when they touch |dw:1398558120606:dw|
so that means that they are right
you would have to see, because that is the condition for them to be perpendicular, you need to put both functions in y=mx+b form so you can determine whether they are or not. it depends solely in the slope of the lines you are analyzing
The slopes would be opposite reciprocals.
so first you have to transform your 4y=5x+2 to y=mx+b, that's quite easy, you just need to divide both sides by 4 (you may have learnt this as "passing" the 4 multiplying the y dividing to the other side)
so it's as simple as \[4y=5x+2,(4y)/4=\frac{ 5x+2 }{ 4 }, y=\frac{ 5 }{ 4 }x+\frac{ 2 }{ 4 }\]
in the formula y=mx+b, the slope is "m", in this case it would be 5/4
to determine whether or not 2 lines are perpendicular by using only their formulas, the slope of one should be the opposite by multiplication of the other and with the opposite sign. What this means is that if we have a line of any slope (lets call it "a") the condition that MUST be covered in order for any other line to be perpendicular is that its slope (lets call it b) must be: \[b=-a ^{-1}=-\frac{ 1 }{ a }\]
so lets get the other slope shall we
our first slope is 5/4, we have to get the second one from \[8x=3-10y, (8x)-3=(-10y+3)-3, 8x-3=-10y,y=-\frac{ 8x-3 }{ 10 }=-\frac{ 8 }{ 10 }x+\frac{ 3 }{ 10 }\]
\[y=-\frac{ 8 }{ 10 }x+\frac{ 3 }{ 10 }=-\frac{ 4 }{ 5 }x+\frac{ 3 }{ 10 }\]
so, now we have the 2 slopes, and we know that fot them to be perpendicular the condition \[b=-\frac{ 1 }{ a }\] should be complete, so our "a"= 5/4, and our b=-4/5\[-\frac{ 1 }{ a }=-\frac{ 1 }{ \frac{ 5 }{ 4 } }\]
that should be "b" right? can you tell me if it is?
no ??
are you sure?
do you know how to divide fractions?
yea but I have a lot of trouble with them
try it out, I know you can do it
okay I will try but what do I divdie
you have to divide \[-\frac{ 1/1 }{ 5/4 }\]
okay I got 0.05 am I ritte
-0.05
no, remember, when you are dividing fractions you do this \[\frac{ a }{ b }\div \frac{ c }{ d }=\frac{ ad }{ bc }\]
how would you do that if we have a=1 b=1 c=5 d=4?
1/1 divided by 5/4 = 15/14 ritte
no, ab is short for a*b, its a multiplication
it's easy, I know you can do it
1/20 because 1*1=1 and then 5*4=20
@SalvadorV
check again \[\frac{ a }{ b }\div \frac{ c }{ d }=\frac{ ad }{ bc }, \frac{ 1 }{ 1 }\div \frac{ 5 }{ 4 }=?\]
5/4
mmmm nope, check those letters again, see this |dw:1398560923483:dw|
4/5
buut I still don't noe if they are perpendicular
ummmm hello @SalvadorV
remember which were the conditions I told you for them to be perpendicular?
so yes they are
sorry, I'm part timing explaining calculus to someone
remember it was that if b=-(1/a) then it was perpendicular
so b was -4/5
and a was 5/4
so if \[-\frac{ 1 }{ a }\] is the same as "b", then the lines are perpendicular
can you tell me if they are?
yess they are !! ritte
YES!!!!!!!! :D
yay thanks let me noe when yhu are done with calculus
I don't think I'll be done soon :/ it's a very wide subject and the person I'm helping doesn't quite understand it
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