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OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 @BSwan

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If one root of (l-m)x^2 +lx +1 =0 be double the other and if l be real , show that \[m \le \frac{ 9 }{ 8 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do we have to substitute like let t = (l - m)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(l -m )a^2 = (l-m)4a^2 + al

Parth (parthkohli):

Let the roots be \(\alpha, 2\alpha.\)\[(l-m)\alpha^2 + l\alpha + 1 = 0\]\[4(l-m)\alpha ^2 + 2l\alpha + 1 = 0\]\[\dfrac{\alpha^2}{l - 2l} = \dfrac{-\alpha}{(l-m) - 4(l-m)} = \dfrac{1}{(2l)(l-m) - (4l)(l-m)}\]That's the only thing which comes to my mind.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\( l\) is a natural log of what ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is no power given that's why i m confused

Parth (parthkohli):

\[3\alpha = -\dfrac{l }{l - m}\]\[2\alpha^2 = \dfrac{1}{l - m}\]Plug the value of \(\alpha\) in the second equation...\[2\left(\dfrac{l}{3(l - m)}\right)^2 = \dfrac{1}{l - m}\]\[\dfrac{2l^2}{9(l - m)} = 1\]\[2l^2 = 9(l - m)\]\[\dfrac{l(9 - 2l)}{9} =m \]@ganeshie8 suspects that you haven't provided the full details in the question.

Parth (parthkohli):

The only place where I can see the presence of inequalities is the discriminant. But it's not given that the roots are real.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\alpha , 2\alpha\) \(3\alpha = \dfrac{-l}{l-m}\) \(2\alpha^2 = \dfrac{1}{l-m}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes that 's what @ParthKohli

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yeah you can conclude by taking the discriminant >= 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why greater than or "="

Parth (parthkohli):

But \(\alpha,2\alpha\) can be complex roots... no one knows. :|

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

cuz \(l\) is real, so the quadratic in \(l\) must have the discriminant >= 0

Parth (parthkohli):

But if it's = 0, then it'd have two coincident roots. One root will be the double of the other only if the root is zero.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes there would be only one case possible

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\alpha , 2\alpha\) \(3\alpha = \dfrac{-l}{l-m} \implies 9\alpha^2 = \dfrac{l^2}{(l-m)^2}~~~ (1)\) \(2\alpha^2 = \dfrac{1}{l-m} ~~~~(2)\) \(\dfrac{(1)}{(2)} \implies \dfrac{9}{2} = \dfrac{l^2}{l-m} \implies 2l^2 - 9l + 9m=0 \)

Parth (parthkohli):

Ah!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

since \(l \in \mathbb R\), \(D \ge 0 \implies 9^2 - 4(2)(9m) \ge 0 \implies m \le \dfrac{9}{8} \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks! ur awesome thank u everybody

Parth (parthkohli):

lol, didn't think of converting it to a quadratic. I was close to that result.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that was beautiful :'( ty @ganeshie8 |dw:1401356422395:dw|

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