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OpenStudy (somy):

Orgaaaaanic heaven full of questions :3 please helppp

OpenStudy (somy):

OpenStudy (somy):

@Kainui help plz >_<

OpenStudy (kainui):

So wait, are the red ones the right answers or your guesses?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No the red ones are the correct answers

OpenStudy (kainui):

So why do you think they're right, and what answers did you guys give? Also, did you figure out all those other ones from earlier and get helped?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No here's the thing, we solve on our own and then check the answer from the official marking scheme. If our answer is not matching with the marking scheme (hence incorrect answers) we try to figure out the reasoning as to why is it wrong and why it should be the other answer and if we can't figure out the reasoning we ask it here in Openstudy

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah, I know that's why I enjoy helping you guys. But this time you didn't tell me why. I just like to hear your wrong reasoning so that I can help correct your reasoning so you understand it better.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well for question number 27.. If dehydration occur with one of the alcohols why is it that it will give three alkenes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if there is 1 OH group, then should form 1 double bond only right?

OpenStudy (somy):

im baaaack

OpenStudy (kainui):

Well, draw out all the alkenes that you think would form, and you'll see.

OpenStudy (kainui):

Well no need to torture you, actually all you're forgetting is really just the cis and trans isomers count as 2 different alkenes.

OpenStudy (somy):

eh ohhh and i was thinking what is the third one

OpenStudy (kainui):

Alright, so next up, how about 26? Rank all of the bromoalkanes from primary, secondary, etc... and remember the difference between SN1 and SN2?

OpenStudy (somy):

oh 1 question before u proceed , if one side of the double bond has CH2 and the other side is a pretty big R group and H does cis and trans happen?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes! I have the same question to ask too

OpenStudy (kainui):

Depends on if it causes too much stearic hinderance or not. Most of the time, trans is the most stable alkene and you'll see more of it, does that answer your question?

OpenStudy (somy):

here is for q 27

OpenStudy (somy):

in q 26 A is gonna be primary alcohol, B- secondary, C- primary and D- tertiary

OpenStudy (kainui):

Oh, I think I see what you mean. There's not trans/cis to happen there because it looks like this: |dw:1401691421828:dw|

OpenStudy (kainui):

|dw:1401691544031:dw| So if I draw in the hydrogens, there isn't any difference if you flip them around since they're identical on that CH2 group double bonded.

OpenStudy (kainui):

Exactly. Do you remember what reacts by SN1 and SN2 of those, primary, secondary, and tertiary?

OpenStudy (somy):

hmm i remember that SN1 works with tertiary, SN2 with primary and both SN1 and SN2 take part in secondary

OpenStudy (kainui):

Rarely does a secondary react by SN1, it's usually SN2 like a primary. SN1 is really most commonly found for tertiary only.

OpenStudy (somy):

yes i do remember that

OpenStudy (kainui):

SN1 has to rely on this to happen: |dw:1401692109916:dw| Since carbon is a pretty good electron donating group, the positive charge left behind on a tertiary carbocation is fairly stable as an intermediate. A secondary will not be able to be very stable since it has a fairly positive hydrogen left behind near that positive charge leaving it to be fairly unstable.

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