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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Quadratics, Completing The Square, And Non-Linear Systems Explanations?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'd like to better understand these subjects.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

tis easier if you were to ask an specific in precise terms

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

and if you posted anew :), thus we can see it and help and also revise each other

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Quadratic Formula would be a good place to start, I think.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yeah, like that as Loser66 just did, he seem to do that often =)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

ok.. so anything confusing about the quadratic formula?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just an explanation, really. Because I'm kind of confused about the whole thing, really.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

ok... gimme a quadratic equation...

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

any... you can make up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Would 2x^2 - 8 + 4 work?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Or do you need something else?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Here is one: \[(A + B)(A-B) = 0\]

OpenStudy (imer):

I will explain you the concept of "Completing the Square" and rest I will leave for other fellows.

OpenStudy (imer):

@FrostFelon :please tag me when you are back so I can explain the concept of "Completing the Square".

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@imer Back.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

did you understand the quadratic formula?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

ok let us do the one you posted => 2x^2 - 8 + 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

tis quite simple really so \(\bf \textit{quadratic formula}\\ y={\color{blue}{ 2}}x^2{\color{red}{ -8}}x{\color{green}{ +4}} \qquad \qquad x= \cfrac{ - {\color{red}{ b}} \pm \sqrt { {\color{red}{ b}}^2 -4{\color{blue}{ a}}{\color{green}{ c}}}}{2{\color{blue}{ a}}}\) and that's all there's to it :) then you just plug in the values and simplify

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see. So it'd be |dw:1403390061804:dw|

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yeap

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf \textit{quadratic formula}\\ y={\color{blue}{ 2}}x^2{\color{red}{ -8}}x{\color{green}{ +4}} \qquad \qquad x= \cfrac{ - {\color{red}{ (-8)}} \pm \sqrt { {\color{red}{ (-8)}}^2 -4{\color{blue}{ (2)}}{\color{green}{ (4)}}}}{2{\color{blue}{ (2)}}} \\ \quad \\ x=\cfrac{8\pm \sqrt{64-32}}{4}\implies x=\cfrac{8\pm \sqrt{32}}{4}\implies x=\cfrac{8\pm \sqrt{4^2\cdot 2}}{4} \\ \quad \\ x=\cfrac{\cancel{ 8 }\pm \cancel{ 4 }\sqrt{2}}{\cancel{ 4 }}\implies x=2\pm\sqrt{2}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Going into this:|dw:1403390297530:dw|

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yeap

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Whoops. Seems you did it for me. Well, thank you for that.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yw

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

so you see, is quite simple, all you do is grab the "a", "b" and "c" and plug them in and simplify

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

so... .to understand what "completing the square" means do you know what a "perfect square trinomial" is? or often called just "perfect square"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did step five go to step six, though?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf x=\cfrac{8\pm \sqrt{4^2\cdot 2}}{4} \\ \quad \\ x=\cfrac{\cancel{ 8 }\pm \cancel{ 4 }\sqrt{2}}{\cancel{ 4 }}\implies x=2\pm\sqrt{2} \quad?\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

you mean how we got "4" from the radicand?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. And what about it being squared? there's no sixteen.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well true well \(\bf 36\to 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\to 4\cdot 4\cdot 2\to 4^2\cdot 2\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

woops 32 even \(\bf 32\to 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\to 4\cdot 4\cdot 2\to 4^2\cdot 2\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, that makes sense, but again, how did the four get out of the square, and without the exponent?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\Large \bf \pm\sqrt[{\color{red}{ n}}]{x^{\color{red}{ n}}} \iff \pm x\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\large \bf \sqrt[2]{32}\to \sqrt[2]{4^2\cdot 2}\to \sqrt[{\color{red}{ 2}}]{4^{\color{red}{ 2}}}\cdot \sqrt[2]{2}\to 4\sqrt{2}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh...huh. So the four basically says, "later, numbers" to the twos and skips over the square-root fence?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yeap, pretty much, that is so for a FACTOR that has an exponent that MATCHES the root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

so... .to understand what "completing the square" means do you know what a "perfect square trinomial" is? or often called just "perfect square"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

so... let us try say another quadratic say for example \(\bf x^2+6x+20\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\( \bf x^2+6x+20\implies (x^2+6x)+20\implies (x^2+6x+{\color{red}{ \square ?}}^2)+20\) what do you think we need there to get a "perfect square trinomial"

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

recall that \(\large \bf ({\color{blue}{ a}}+{\color{brown}{ b}})^2={\color{blue}{ a}}^2+2{\color{blue}{ a}}{\color{brown}{ b}}+{\color{brown}{ b}}^2\)

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