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OpenStudy (dls):

Set theory and functions doubts

OpenStudy (dls):

OpenStudy (dls):

q3,q6 in one marks q1,q2 in 4 marks

OpenStudy (dls):

@ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we may use below for q3 : if (x, y) is a point on \(f(x)\), then (y, x) will be a point on \(f^{-1}(x)\)

OpenStudy (dls):

nahi samaj aya :/ very weak in this how to solve for R?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(R = {(1, 2), (2, 3), (3, 1)} \) swap x and y values to get its inverse : \(R^{-1} = {(2, 1), (3, 2), (1, 3)} \)

OpenStudy (dls):

to A ka use kya hua matlab?

OpenStudy (dls):

acha :/ bakwas q

OpenStudy (dls):

next!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the values used in this relation are taken from set A

OpenStudy (dls):

yeah got it :|

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

q6 is equally trivial

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

just write out all the pairs (x, y) such that "y is a multiple of x"

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for example : {(2, 4), (2, 6)}

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

they have to be in the relation cuz, 4 = 2*2, and 6 = 2*3

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you can find all other ordered pairs

OpenStudy (dls):

okay! got it :D 4 marks one?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lets work Q2 first

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

knw how to interpret AxA ?

OpenStudy (dls):

(1,2) x (3,4) = {(1,3),(1,4),(2,3),(2,4)} ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yep ! but u need to use flower brackets for sets : {}

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

{1,2} x {3,4} = {(1,3),(1,4),(2,3),(2,4)} ?

OpenStudy (dls):

ah yeah..:P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

since (1, 2) and (3, 4) are two elements in set AxA, the x coordinates, 1, 3 must belong to A the y coordinates, 2, 4 must belong to A

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so 1, 2, 3, 4 must be elements in A

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and we're given that AxA has 16 elements - that means A must has sqrt(16) =4 elements. so 1, 2, 3, 4 are ALL the elements in A : A = {1, 2, 3, 4}

OpenStudy (dls):

sab theek hai par B intersection C is phi :/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you mean Q1 ?

OpenStudy (dls):

yeah in Q1..but okay 2 ke baad hi dekhenge :|

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Q2 katam hua na ?

OpenStudy (dls):

yes!

OpenStudy (dls):

bakwas q again :P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

A = {1, 2, 3, 4}, A = {1, 2, 3, 4} you can write out AxA

OpenStudy (dls):

yeah got it..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

haha set theory appears bakwas, but its applications in number theory and other branches are very powerful

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

okay lets see Q1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

parA - just show that both sides yield an empty set

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

partB - find AxC, and BxD then show that one guy is a subset of the other

OpenStudy (dls):

got it :O

OpenStudy (dls):

OpenStudy (dls):

q11 -> 1,2

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

range of f(x) = domain of "x = f(y)" solve for x first

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large y = \dfrac{x^2+2x+3}{x}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large xy = x^2 + 2x+3\) \(\large x^2+(2-y)x+3 = 0\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large x = \dfrac{-(2-y) \pm \sqrt{(2-y)^2 - 4(1)(3)}}{2(1)}\)

OpenStudy (dls):

ye solve hoga? O.o

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

clearly, x produces some value in reals ONLY when D > 0

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

D >= 0 *

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large (2-y)^2 - 4(1)(3) \ge 0\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large (2-y)^2 \ge 12\)

OpenStudy (dls):

y^2-4y-8>=0

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large 2-y \ge \sqrt{12}\) or \(\large 2-y \le -\sqrt{12}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large y \le 2 - \sqrt{12}\) or \(\large y \ge 2 + \sqrt{12}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats the range ^^

OpenStudy (dls):

nice :O

OpenStudy (dls):

let me try part 2

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

okie

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\Huge (- \infty , \frac{17}{8}]\] ye hoga?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

y <= 2/3 or y>1

OpenStudy (dls):

:/

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\LARGE yx^2-3y=x^2-2\] \[\LARGE x^2(y-1)-3y+2=0\] D>=0 \[\LARGE 9 -4(2)(y-1) \geq 0\] 8y<= 17 y<=17/8 :(

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

haha the equation is a quadratic in x, not y

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\LARGE x^2(y-1)-3y+2=0\] \(\large a = y-1\) x^2 coefficient \(\large b = 0\) x corfficient \(\large c = -3y+2\) constant term

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

D >= 0 \[\large 0 - 4(y-1)(-3y+2) \ge 0\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large 4(y-1)(-3y+2) \le 0\]

OpenStudy (dls):

okay..agaya

OpenStudy (dls):

thanks..now u can fly away..ill tag if any more problems :P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

okay have fun :)

OpenStudy (dls):

hogaye saare :D thanks!

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