A glass jar with a volume of 215cm^3 is designed to withstand a pressure of 253 KPa. The jar is filled with gas at a pressure of 152 KPa at ambient temperature. Can the glassware withstand the gas being heated to 2X10^2 Degree Celsius?
Pv=nRT the variables i think i'll be working with are P/T=nR/V P1/T1=P2/V2, where V1 is 152/25=253/T
i suppose its better to use P1/T1 = P2/T2
thats what i'm using but for some reason i'm not getting the right answer
sorry if i mistyped the furmula but that;s exactly what i'm using to find the temperature
alright did u do it like this? 253 000/ X = 152 000/ ((2X10^2) + 273)
i get, T2= 253X25/152=41.61C
look what i did
sorry for the late reply, i think the OS went down right after replied to my comment. Anyways why did you multiply the pressure by 1000????
coz its in Kpa i need in Pa
SI system units
if i calculate the way you stated above, i get 787.30 which is not right
787.30- 273 =
514.3, which is still not right :(
what is the right answer?
the answer is 810 or 8.1X10^2
8.1X10^2
thats so weird
yep!!!! wait let me try myself
i extremely apologize the right answer is 241KPa and not 810...... i've double checked this time....
@Somy
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this is how i tried to do the questioin, 152X(101.3+273)/253 and i get 224.8KPa
101.3 ? where did u get this from?
it says that the experiment was done in 1 atm pressure which is 101.3
or ambient temperature
25C
oh i see btw if u r saying that 101.3 is pressure then u r doing the calculation wrong
yah i jus realized LOL
i have no iead what i'm suppose to do....
lol 273 + Celsius degree = Kelvin its unit conversion
u are adding 273 to pressure which is obviously wrong
so what do i do then?????
first tell me what formula u used just now? im confused
P1/T1 = P2/T2, where P1 is the initial pressure 152KPa/initial 25C= 253KPa/T2
but then you will find temperature tho
, the question asks whether or not the temperature i get is higher or lower than 200C which is what the glassware is designed for. so i get get i number less than 200, that means that the glassware can withstand the heat if not the temperature will be higher than 200C
im getting 223 Celsius
i'm getting 224
you are confusing me u said i extremely apologize the right answer is 241KPa and not 810...... i've double checked this time.... kpa is PRESSURE
so we need pressure
yah i jus realized that too.... so what am i suppose to do :'(
set the equation so that i'm solvign for pressure????
ok let me think properly coz i got too confused ~_~ with what u r saying and what the question is saying
got it
right
limit of the pressure of the jar = 253 KPa @ ambiant/25C intial pressure of the jar= 152 KPa what would be the pressure of the jar if the temperature is 200C
look we will use P1/T1 = P2/T2 P1= 152 Kpa T1= 25 Celsius +273= 298 K P2= X T2= 200 + 273= 473 K
so 152/298 = X/ 473 X= 473 *152/ 298 = 241kPa
right now i get the question ~_~ u mixed up the whole conversion stuff so i got confused
look when we use Gas law formulas we have to use temperature in Kelvin always remember that you used Celsius thats why you were getting stuff wrong + well you got the question wrong a bit too but well you were on the right way so basically saying the question asked if it will with stand - if the temperature is increased now that means we need to find pressure to which this temperature will lead us to, and then compare
i really appreciate the effort you put into solving the question. I wish i could give you a noble prize but for now thank you so much!!!!!!!!
lol you are welcome :)))))
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