What is the sum of the geometric sequence -3, 18, -108, ... if there are 8 terms? 719,835 119,973 -119,973 -719,835
@jdoe0001
any ideas on the common ratio? that is, "r"
um..not really :/
hmmm do you know what a geometric sequence is?
yes
well... to get the next term... .you'd multiply by "something" the current term notice say from -3 to 18 -3 * something = 18 so... that "something" is the common ratio, or "r" which is the same used to get -108 that is 18 * something = -108
oh okay I do I find the 8th term?
wait if I find the rule can I find the sum..
let me find the rule..
\(\Large \bf a_{\color{brown}{ n}}=a_1\cdot r{\color{blue}{ }}^{{\color{brown}{ n}}-1}\implies a_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=a_1\cdot r{\color{blue}{ }}^{{\color{brown}{ 8}}-1}\)
yes I got the rule as (-3)(-6)^(n-1)
yeap so the 8th term is \(\bf a_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\cdot -6^{{\color{brown}{ 8}}-1}\)
now the sum of the first 8 terms, will be \(\Large \bf S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=a_1\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}^{\color{brown}{ n}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}}\right)\)
anyhow \(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ n}}=a_1\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}^{\color{brown}{ n}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}}\right)\)
so.. can't we find each of the terms and find the sum of those all..
you could do that, yes or you could just use the 1st term and the 8th term, and use \(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ n}}=a_1\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}^{\color{brown}{ n}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}}\right)\)
well... I take that back... no the 8th term, but the common ratio "r" rather
okay... so: =-3(1- ?) / (1-?)
I don't really know the ? marks..
what is r ?
well... you already know what "r" is, is -6 that's the common ratio or what you used to get from -3 to 18 and from 18 to -108 so \(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ n}}=a_1\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}^{\color{brown}{ n}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}}\right)\implies S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}^{\color{brown}{ 8}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}}\right)\)
oh yeah... I keep getting 859,803
\(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}^{\color{brown}{ 8}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}}\right)\implies S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-1679616}{7}\right)\)
yes that's what I got.
859,803 ?
yeap
heheh.... hmmm w0t?
lol do you know ;)
ok... so.... what's 1-1679616?
it's -1679615
yeap.... so dividing that by 7... won't give you 859,803 though
yes that would give you -239945 and when you multiply that by -3 you would get 859,803
hmmm
;)
hmm I see... pemdas got us =)
ohh
\(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}^{\color{brown}{ 8}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}}\right)\implies S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-1679616}{7}\right) \\ \quad \\ S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\cdot \cfrac{1-1679616}{7}\to \cfrac{-3\cdot 1-1679616}{7}\)
though.... I don't see anything wrong with the previous anser... the grouped set should be done first.... , unless is not a grouped set
oh I got -229945.57
well... that should read \(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\cdot \cfrac{1-1679616}{7}\to \cfrac{-3\cdot (1-1679616)}{7}\) anyhow.. the subtraction is done first, then the multiplication and THEN the division
oh let meh redo that..
oh got the first option 1. are u sure our error was the pemdas?
actually the last option
yes.... I somehow disagree with it though... the PARENtheses should have done first, and THEN the multiplication
oh okay, me too same
wait I am sorry to confuse you I mean I got option A. Is that what you got too right?
if we use that pemdas arrangement, which I think is wrong, yes
oh okay I'll go with A.
I feel more safe with a..
heheeh
;) lol
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