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OpenStudy (superhelp101):

What is the sum of the geometric sequence -3, 18, -108, ... if there are 8 terms? 719,835 119,973 -119,973 -719,835

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

@jdoe0001

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

any ideas on the common ratio? that is, "r"

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

um..not really :/

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

hmmm do you know what a geometric sequence is?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

yes

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well... to get the next term... .you'd multiply by "something" the current term notice say from -3 to 18 -3 * something = 18 so... that "something" is the common ratio, or "r" which is the same used to get -108 that is 18 * something = -108

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

oh okay I do I find the 8th term?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

wait if I find the rule can I find the sum..

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

let me find the rule..

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\Large \bf a_{\color{brown}{ n}}=a_1\cdot r{\color{blue}{ }}^{{\color{brown}{ n}}-1}\implies a_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=a_1\cdot r{\color{blue}{ }}^{{\color{brown}{ 8}}-1}\)

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

yes I got the rule as (-3)(-6)^(n-1)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yeap so the 8th term is \(\bf a_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\cdot -6^{{\color{brown}{ 8}}-1}\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

now the sum of the first 8 terms, will be \(\Large \bf S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=a_1\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}^{\color{brown}{ n}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}}\right)\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

anyhow \(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ n}}=a_1\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}^{\color{brown}{ n}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}}\right)\)

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

so.. can't we find each of the terms and find the sum of those all..

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

you could do that, yes or you could just use the 1st term and the 8th term, and use \(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ n}}=a_1\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}^{\color{brown}{ n}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}}\right)\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well... I take that back... no the 8th term, but the common ratio "r" rather

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

okay... so: =-3(1- ?) / (1-?)

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

I don't really know the ? marks..

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

what is r ?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well... you already know what "r" is, is -6 that's the common ratio or what you used to get from -3 to 18 and from 18 to -108 so \(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ n}}=a_1\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}^{\color{brown}{ n}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ r}}}\right)\implies S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}^{\color{brown}{ 8}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}}\right)\)

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

oh yeah... I keep getting 859,803

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}^{\color{brown}{ 8}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}}\right)\implies S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-1679616}{7}\right)\)

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

yes that's what I got.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

859,803 ?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

yeap

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

heheh.... hmmm w0t?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

lol do you know ;)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

ok... so.... what's 1-1679616?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

it's -1679615

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yeap.... so dividing that by 7... won't give you 859,803 though

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

yes that would give you -239945 and when you multiply that by -3 you would get 859,803

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

hmmm

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

;)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

hmm I see... pemdas got us =)

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

ohh

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}^{\color{brown}{ 8}}}{1-{\color{blue}{ (-6)}}}\right)\implies S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\left(\cfrac{1-1679616}{7}\right) \\ \quad \\ S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\cdot \cfrac{1-1679616}{7}\to \cfrac{-3\cdot 1-1679616}{7}\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

though.... I don't see anything wrong with the previous anser... the grouped set should be done first.... , unless is not a grouped set

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

oh I got -229945.57

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well... that should read \(\bf S_{\color{brown}{ 8}}=-3\cdot \cfrac{1-1679616}{7}\to \cfrac{-3\cdot (1-1679616)}{7}\) anyhow.. the subtraction is done first, then the multiplication and THEN the division

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

oh let meh redo that..

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

oh got the first option 1. are u sure our error was the pemdas?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

actually the last option

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yes.... I somehow disagree with it though... the PARENtheses should have done first, and THEN the multiplication

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

oh okay, me too same

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

wait I am sorry to confuse you I mean I got option A. Is that what you got too right?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

if we use that pemdas arrangement, which I think is wrong, yes

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

oh okay I'll go with A.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

I feel more safe with a..

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

heheeh

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

;) lol

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