Help: Radical expression
\[ \frac{ (5-(1/\sqrt{5})) }{ 1+(1/\sqrt{5})) } \]
here's a better representation \[\frac{ 5-\frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt{5} } }{ 1+\frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt{5} } }\]
\(\huge\color{black}{ \frac{5-\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}}{1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}} }\) \(\huge\color{black}{ \frac{\frac{5\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{5}}-\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}}{\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{5}}+\frac{1 }{\sqrt{5}}} }\)
\(\huge\color{black}{ \frac{\frac{5\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{5}}-\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}}{\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{5}}+\frac{1 }{\sqrt{5}}} }\) \(\huge\color{black}{ \frac{\frac{5\sqrt{5}-1}{\sqrt{5}}}{\frac{\sqrt{5}+1}{\sqrt{5}}} }\)
what i have so far: numerator- \[\frac{ 5\sqrt{5}-1 }{ \sqrt{5} }\] denominator- \[\frac{\sqrt{5}+1 }{ \sqrt{5} }\]
divide top and bottom by square root of 5.
and you are correct for what you got so far... now divide by square root of 5 on top and bottom, you get ?
so to do that i would take the reciprocal of the denominator and multiply it with the numerator?
yes, in other words, you flip the second fraction, and multiply
Good that you are familiar with the rules. That makes me smile.
\[\frac{ \sqrt{5}(5\sqrt{5}-1) }{ \sqrt{5}(\sqrt{5}+1) } = \frac{ 25 - \sqrt{5} }{ 5+\sqrt{5} }\]
i think i messed up while distributing
I am taking the first side of the last thing you wrote. And THERE, why can't you just cancel the square root of 5 on top and bottom ?
the square root of 5, on top and bottom , those that are in front of the parenthesis.
oh wow
And you didn't mess up. You are completely correct.
you're right
wow ?
i should've just cancelled the sqrt5
Yeah.. just go ahead and cancel the square roots of 5.
tell me what you get after that.
So the answer is 5sqrt5 - 1 over sqrt5 + 1
yes
but this is not the answer.
you are not allowed to have a radical in the denominator. Multiply both sides times the denominator's conjugate.
oh okay. i need rationalize the denominator right?
yeaahh !!! :)
okay, i'll do that right now. give me a sec
sure :) I'll just retype the last step.
\(\huge\color{ blue }{\huge {\bbox[5pt, cyan ,border:2px solid purple ]{ \frac{5\sqrt{5}-1}{1+\sqrt{5}} }}}\)
thanks so much!
I'm almost done lol
yes, I would prefer you to finish the problem here, so that I can make sure it is correct. (Not like I am a teach.. but)
\[\frac{ (5\sqrt{5}-1)(\sqrt{5}-1) }{ (\sqrt{5)^2}-(1)^2 }= \frac{ ? }{ 4 }\]
okay so i have to distribute the numerator
yes, you would need to just simplify" distribute, or whatever you want to call it ... the denominator. First though, I would finish doing the numerator.
\[numerator- 25 - 5\sqrt{5} - \sqrt{5} + 1\]
you are multiplying by \(\normalsize\color{black}{ \sqrt{5}-1}\) on top and bottom, no ?
and that is no the same as \(\normalsize\color{black}{ 1-\sqrt{5}}\)
okay thanks. i corrected it
wait, but I'm still confused. what's the next step? I'm still stuck at 5sqrt5 - 1 / sqrt5 +1
\(\LARGE\color{black}{ \frac{5\sqrt{5}-1}{\sqrt{5}+1} }\) \(\LARGE\color{black}{ \frac{(5\sqrt{5}-1)\color{red}{(\sqrt{5}-1)}}{(\sqrt{5}+1)\color{red}{(\sqrt{5}-1)}} }\) \(\LARGE\color{black}{ \frac{(5\sqrt{5}-1)\color{red}{(\sqrt{5}-1)}}{\sqrt{5}^2-1^2} }\) \(\LARGE\color{black}{ \frac{(5\sqrt{5}-1)\color{red}{(\sqrt{5}-1)}}{5-1} }\) \(\LARGE\color{black}{ \frac{(5\sqrt{5}-1)\color{red}{(\sqrt{5}-1)}}{4} }\)
Tell me if you are god with THIS ...
okay, yeah I'm good with that. that's what i had before
Yes, but you then multiplied times the 1-sqrt5, instead of multiplying times sqrt5-1
oh okay, i see what you're saying now
Yes, and your answer is going to be ? ....
\[ \frac{ 25 - 6\sqrt{5} + 1 }{ 4 }\]
yes, and then add like terms on the top, and divide by 2, (you can call it "war" or cancel 2) on top and bottom.
or \[\frac{ 26 - 6\sqrt{5} }{ 4}\]
okay so 13 - 6sqrt5 / 2
not sqrt6. You divide the entire top by 2.
oh, so \[\frac{ 13 - 3\sqrt{5} }{ 2 }\]
yup !
okay thank you very much!!
You welcome !
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